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  1. tudor66 Nov 9, 2018

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    Picking up another pre-moon speedmaster. It has the stepdial, but also has a dent on the bezel around 12 oclock.
    Inner caseback and serial point to 1969 year. Awaiting service before I can wear it. The band is badly worn, this may be a leather strap watch, or a keep it in the safe until a later date...

    How bad is that dent at 12 o'clock? I understand that it's not a .90 bezel insert

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  2. DRjre086 Nov 9, 2018

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    Is the chrono engaged currently in the pics? Or is 12hr counter not working?
     
  3. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Nov 9, 2018

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    Chrono Creep... assuming that’s why it is being serviced.
     
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  4. DRjre086 Nov 9, 2018

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    Yep, that is what I was getting at although you’re right, probably why it’s being serviced in the first place.
     
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  5. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Nov 9, 2018

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    dent isn't so bad. probably wouldn't have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out... depends on what you're after. do you plan to wear or stuff in a safe?
     
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  6. tudor66 Nov 9, 2018

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    Exactly, chrono needed repair. Good catch
     
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  7. tudor66 Nov 9, 2018

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    It's one of these thoughts for me, "wait for another pre-moon to show up in my circle of collectors/friends, or get this one and enjoy the pre-moon as it is." I'll probably wear it very little, but I like the watch nevertheless...
     
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  8. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Nov 9, 2018

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    the endlinks too appear to be incorrect, but if the price is right, that dent wouldn't bother me.
     
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  9. DRjre086 Nov 9, 2018

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    Yes, was going to say they almost look like for completely different bracelet, like a jubilee style
     
  10. tudor66 Nov 9, 2018

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    Yes, endlinks unknown and the stretch in the bracelet is really significant. Perhaps a bracelet rebuild down the road is in order.
     
  11. tudor66 Nov 9, 2018

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    Exactly what I was thinking. Price is great, so no loss here if I trade/sell it later...
     
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  12. 104RS Nov 10, 2018

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    Dent wouldn't bother me too much personally. What is the serial range?
     
  13. Dan S Nov 10, 2018

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    Yes, depending on the serial, the bezel may or may not be correct.
     
  14. tudor66 Nov 10, 2018

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    Early 30 million serial..., which I believe puts it in the 1969-1970 date range. Inner caseback shows 1969. I believe the bezel is correct for this year, but I’ll defer to the experts here..

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  15. Dan S Nov 10, 2018

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    Still not enough information about the serial number, but it doesn't sound good so far. An "early 30 million" (before 30,588,XXX) serial number should have DON. So if your serial is before that, the bezel has been swapped out. This can be corrected, obviously - at a price.

    Separate issue, but you can get a good delivery date estimate on ilovemyspeedmaster.com. Any 30M serial will put an extract date well into 1970.

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  16. tudor66 Nov 10, 2018

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    I double checked: it’s a 30,994,xxx.

    Man, I really like this forum. So much more information than I expected. Thanks
     
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  17. Cal_321 Nov 10, 2018

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    Hmm, shouldn't have this serial a 220 bezel?
     
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  18. tudor66 Nov 11, 2018

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    I have a few noobie questions. I believe 220 bezel means the number 220 is visible versus the typical 225 insert. Does DON mean dot on the number, meaning the dot on top of the ninety....? My watch does not have the dot on top of the ninety...it's to the side...

    thanks,
     
  19. DRjre086 Nov 11, 2018

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    Correct, few bezels were made with the incorrect 220 graduation. DON = Dot Next to Ninety
    DNN = Dot Next to Ninety
     
  20. tudor66 Nov 11, 2018

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    Thanks, now it all makes sense...