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verithingeoff

·Mar 1, 2020

Hi guys.
I have an opportunity to buy this Ploprof at a reasonable price, I've been looking for one for a few years and now seems like a good time. It all looks ok to me but I haven't seen any movement pictures yet. Does the "C" case fit ok with the dial and bezel for an early 1970s Ploprof. I've read a lot of stuff here and on google and to be honest my elderly head is a bit frazzled. Any help much appreciated and thanks in advance for any enlightenment!

 

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JanV

·Mar 1, 2020

Could you also ask for the serial number of the movement?

 

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verithingeoff

·Mar 1, 2020

Yes I will Jan, just to add they also supplied this info:
We serviced this watch Nov 2018, overhaul, crown gaskets, glass gaskets, omega spring bars x2, ultra sonic clean of case and bracelet.

 

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gefmey

·Mar 1, 2020

It looks good, a couple of issues, if you care, the bezel looks like it has a crack between 46 and 47. Not sure you care, I think it adds to the character. Looks like an earlier D2 dial on a late case, however that's not to say it's necessarily wrong. These were not big sellers back in the day, and knowing how Omega used parts in batches, it's not necessarily wrong. The hard part is making sure the movement is a correct 1002 and was originally in a Ploprof. The serial numbers are scattered in small batches for Ploprofs so the only sure way to tell is an extract. Most of those 350,000 movements went into Constellations, and swaps are common. Good luck, I think these are great. Also nice extended lume hour hand.

 

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simonsays

·Mar 1, 2020

I don’t think there is any reliable information on where C cases fit into the production. I think it has been agreed that it was a production mistake and a result of a machining error. They are certainly quite rare. I have not seen enough coeval watches to make an informed judgement, but the 2 I have recorded both had movements from mid and late1972, which fits in with your dial. I would be happy to say that this is a coeval watch with original parts.
It’s worth checking if the mesh is original. A 37 in a circle as opposed to a 59 would indicate it is original, although this is just a nice added bonus, not an alarm bell. I would expect to find a 32 million serial inside this one.

 

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gefmey

·Mar 1, 2020

simonsays

I don’t think there is any reliable information on where C cases fit into the production. I think it has been agreed that it was a production mistake and a result of a machining error. They are certainly quite rare. I have not seen enough coeval watches to make an informed judgement, but the 2 I have recorded both had movements from mid and late1972, which fits in with your dial. I would be happy to say that this is a coeval watch with original parts.
It’s worth checking if the mesh is original. A 37 in a circle as opposed to a 59 would indicate it is original, although this is just a nice added bonus, not an alarm bell. I would expect to find a 32 million serial inside this one.

I thought the shark mesh came in a little later, around 1974. It's also possible that the watch dates from then, and is still correct based on all the different dates floating around out there 😉

 

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simonsays

·Mar 1, 2020

As a bracelet can be added any time, I don’t see it as an indicator, but it is nice to have an original mesh, they are longer and have a nice vintage feel. The service version is a bit too chrome for my liking.

 

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gefmey

·Mar 1, 2020

simonsays

As a bracelet can be added any time, I don’t see it as an indicator, but it is nice to have an original mesh, they are longer and have a nice vintage feel. The service version is a bit too chrome for my liking.

👍 Agreed. I find although they are comfortable, I just don't like the look, but that's just me. Anyway I think it's more important to assure that the movement is a Ploprof one.

 

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verithingeoff

·Mar 1, 2020

Thanks for the input guys, much appreciated. I've emailed the seller with enhanced pictures of the bezel, but I think I will go ahead, my S300 has a cracked bezel and I never notice it

Geoff

 

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jaguar11

·Mar 2, 2020

The best of luck with your purchase. The aquasition of an archive extract in my opinion (and I may add recent experience) is help full to confirm the movement number being correct to the model. Best wishes.

 

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verithingeoff

·Mar 4, 2020

The vendor just got back to me with the numbers and pictures

 

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gefmey

·Mar 4, 2020

The potential good news is that the serial number fits into known Ploprof serial numbers (found in another ploprof thread on the forum) 32060xxx. The others have been dated to 1972, so a good chance yours is too. Worth getting an extract.

 

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JanV

·Mar 4, 2020

Looks good, really worth getting an EoA. So far so good, nothing to alarm in terms of authenticity if you ask me.

 

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JimInOz

·Mar 5, 2020·Melbourne Australia

So if you get this you won't need your Submariner any more?

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😁

 

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verithingeoff

·Mar 5, 2020

Really happy with the numbersand the vendor is giving the watch a service while it's apart so all good, He's going to send it out on Monday so some pics Tues/Wed. Extract applied for.

 

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verithingeoff

·Mar 5, 2020

JimInOz

So if you get this you won't need your Submariner any more?

😗

😁

Mate if you are interested in the sub shoot me a PM, mates rates will apply!😁

 

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JimInOz

·Mar 5, 2020·Melbourne Australia

verithingeoff

Mate if you are interested in the sub shoot me a PM, mates rates will apply!😁

Done and done.

😉

 

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verithingeoff

·Mar 5, 2020

All done and dusted by 8:01 pm, is this a forum record?😁

 

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SpeedyPhill

·Mar 5, 2020

This kind of topic makes me anxiously looking forward to the "" Seamaster Only "" book by GRAM...

 

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verithingeoff

·Mar 5, 2020

It would probably have saved me a good few hours on the phone and google!