this guy from Artesia california also known as qqvintage before he changed his ebay id is a real crook, check what he sold before (and many more): http://forums.watchuseek.com/f441/first-ever-fake-moonwatch-franken-only-2701777.html

 

This guy is selling a Speedy with 321 movement. The movement, however, is considerably older than even the earlier pre-professional Speedys. The dial is obviously wrong, lacking "T"-labels.
He is also not keen to answer questions. Notably, he doesnt want to tell me which Reference-No the watch is. The watch seems to be assembled from Speedy-parts of different eras.

https://www.ricardo.ch/kaufen/uhren...-speedmaster-321-chrono-ha-uhr/v/an817607678/

 

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At least the box looks real.

 

145.0012 for sure. Wrong bezel, Service dial and hands. That makes a lot.

 

I know this guy, he's on Sunday at the "Bürkliplatz Flohmarkt" a flea market in Zurich... and he's selling Franken only at stratospheric prices... Never seen any genuine Speedmasters from him.

 

Good to know, (and to avoid)

 

Yeah, "145.0012" is what the stamp in the caseback says. But technically, this very caseback could have been purchased for the new case.
To me, it is not a 145.0012 if the movement (waaay too old with this serial), the dial and the hands are wrong.

 

145.0012 is a service case back

 

Thanks for the information.
Has he been honest about the pieces he's selling at Bürkliplatz?
When asking him questions on Ricardo, he is evasive, pretending he doesn't know too well. He says he is selling the watch "as is".
Telling him about my concerns, he claims that having had the watch serviced at Omega is proof of authenticity
And: "The movement might have been replaced at an earlier service". He just "does not know". Yeah, for sure, replacement with a movement more than a decade older than the watch.
Obviously, he does not allow the conversation on Ricardo to be viewed publicly...

 

he's been in the watch business for ages and he doesn't know about speedmasters? he's a crook..

 

It's a shame Ricardo doesn't act when reporting.
The only category making sense is "misleading description", but they do not seem to care about genuity/authenticity of products.

 

Maybe I should buy a copy of MWO and become an instant expert on vintage speedmasters

 

Hasn't this seller posted this, or others like it, before?

 

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Checked and cleaned by local jewelry dealer. Probably the same guy who sold it to him from under his coat.

 

It's the famous "MISSONS" model.

Let's open a reporting storm on this POS.

 

Four different bidders on this and none have noticed that missions is spelled incorrectly.

 

Not that he will care but I notified the seller, also.

 

Muscle memory is becoming strong reporting fakes on the iPad.

 

The horrible dial sticks out even more than "MISSONS" on the back..........