PG Uni-Compax with Jewler's Mark in Florence

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Lex4TDI4Life

·Sep 5, 2013

I came across this pin gold Uni-Compax while knocking around the jewelry stores in Florence. It has "Gobbi Milano" on the dial. Was this a common seller of UG's? The dial is otherwise a bit dirty, but the case seems to make up for it. Opinions?

 

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LouS

·Sep 5, 2013·Mrs Nataf's Other Son

Gobbi was a well-known retailer of all brands in Milan - I've seen 'em on Rolexes as well. IMO does not detract from the watch, but I like these sorts of details. Uncommon fluted bezel on this one. The lugs should have three flat facets on the front - I think they do, but hard to be certain from the photo. Dial IS filthy, but damned hard to find these in great shape - nevertheless, a discount is in order.

Ought to be Reference 124116 with a serial number in the 1.5 to 1.6 million range.

What is he asking?

 

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Lex4TDI4Life

·Sep 5, 2013

2400 Euros. Out of my price range unless he is willing to entertain a trade. I think he is used to buyers who don't know their stuff. I can forward you his info if you like.

 

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ulackfocus

·Sep 5, 2013

I've seen International do some bang-up jobs on these UG's.

 

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Lex4TDI4Life

·Sep 5, 2013

U ulackfocus

I've seen International do some bang-up jobs on these UG's.

As in re-dialing? Cleaning?

 

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LouS

·Sep 5, 2013·Mrs Nataf's Other Son

Lex4TDI4Life

2400 Euros. Out of my price range unless he is willing to entertain a trade. I think he is used to buyers who don't know their stuff. I can forward you his info if you like.

no, wouldn't shell out that much for this one. That's about an acceptable price in USD if it were a bit cleaner.

 

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Lex4TDI4Life

·Sep 5, 2013

LouS

no, wouldn't shell out that much for this one. That's about an acceptable price in USD if it were a bit cleaner.

Makes sense. I am going to his other shop tomorrow to see if there is anything interesting, but I am guessing it will all be highly marked up.

 

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ulackfocus

·Sep 5, 2013

Lex4TDI4Life

As in re-dialing? Cleaning?

Redialing. They used to be across the street from UG in NYC and did the original dials. Apparently they still have the dies.

 

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LouS

·Sep 5, 2013·Mrs Nataf's Other Son

Lex4TDI4Life

Makes sense. I am going to his other shop tomorrow to see if there is anything interesting, but I am guessing it will all be highly marked up.

Keep us UG and Zenith junkies posted.

 

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Lex4TDI4Life

·Sep 5, 2013

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Redialing. They used to be across the street from UG in NYC and did the original dials. Apparently they still have the dies.

So, for the UG junkies, would a dial made from the original dies be a non-starter?

 

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LouS

·Sep 5, 2013·Mrs Nataf's Other Son

Lex4TDI4Life

So, for the UG junkies, would a dial made from the original dies be a non-starter?

It'd have to be something damned good to come under consideration.

 

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ulackfocus

·Sep 5, 2013

Lex4TDI4Life

So, for the UG junkies, would a dial made from the original dies be a non-starter?

Original is still better.

 

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Jimmy M

·Sep 6, 2013

Since nobody has commented on the detail on the case, I will. In many years of looking at UG chronos, I have never seen one like this. Does that raise a red flag for any of you who probably know a lot more than I do?

 

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LouS

·Sep 6, 2013·Mrs Nataf's Other Son

Jimmy M

Since nobody has commented on the detail on the case, I will. In many years of looking at UG chronos, I have never seen one like this. Does that raise a red flag for any of you who probably know a lot more than I do?

Jim, what's your reservation?

 

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Jimmy M

·Sep 6, 2013

My reservation is that I have never seen a Universal Geneve with the case design this one has. The raised markers which appear around the perimeter at each hour is a new one to me. All the other cases I have seen do not have this detail... they are just smooth. Have you seen ones like this before?

 

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LouS

·Sep 6, 2013·Mrs Nataf's Other Son

Are you speaking of the fluted bezel?
Yes, it is an uncommon variant, but well documented in Sala (associated with case references 124116 which OP's watch most closely resembles as I noted above, and with ref 124118) and around the interwebs (ref 124146; none are my watches)

(picture credit mak727@O&P)

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unknown source (might be the same watch as above)

 

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Jimmy M

·Sep 6, 2013

Yes, it must be quite an uncommon variant, since it is unfamiliar to me. But since it has been adequately documented, that satisfies my questions about it!