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DSotW DSotW
While I agree, that only works if the manufacturers are honest. As an example, I had an AEG dishwasher that lasted 16 years, never needed a service/repair. The heating element eventually died and the replacement part was more expensive than buying a new machine modern machine that uses less energy/water etc. Replaced it with a high-end Electrolux, which over 4 years has already had the heat pump assembly replaced twice, the second time it cost half of the original price of the machine. So, which machine was better for the environment and my bank account?


Don't ask about my 30 year old Potterton gas boiler …. serviced twice so far :0)
 
DSotW
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One thing I did to help the environment was to get rid of my old diesel car and get a new (used) one that pollutes less. And, I have been working from a home office since 2018 (distributed company).

One upside to the Pandemic has shown that offices are no longer needed, really. People are able to work from home. I wonder how many billions of litres of petrol and diesel / tonnes of CO2 were saved during that period?

Now one can see company managers saying people must come back to the offices now that the pandemic is relenting. Why? Why is this needed? It's been proved to be unnecessary. Maybe because they want to keep the price of their real-estate high? Or want to maintain the multi-levels of managers, many of whom likely server no purpose in a home office work structure / environment?
 
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In the first few months of the pandemic, we saw amazing reports of air and water quality improvement globally in short order. If we give the environment a beat, it can work to heal itself. I remember vividly standing in my porch last May and noticing the quality of the air felt crisp and fresh like being in the country. I’m not totally without hope- but it seriously does take a village.
 
dsio
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Had to clean up some fighting and political stuff, try to be cool to each other.
 
MTROIS
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I am super glad that @dsio was able to reinstate this thread after a little clean up. Let’s keep the exchanges constructive here and let us focus on sharing ideas and best practices on how we can keep trying to minimize our impact on our shared HOME. 👍

Thank you all for all the contributions already.
 
kidkimura
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Gave up meat myself. The animal meat industry is a big contributor to climate change

Feels like the right thing to do from an ethical perspective as well, see e.g. Peter Singer for some cogent arguments there.
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Stripey
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DSotW DSotW
While I agree, that only works if the manufacturers are honest. As an example, I had an AEG dishwasher that lasted 16 years, never needed a service/repair. The heating element eventually died and the replacement part was more expensive than buying a new machine modern machine that uses less energy/water etc. Replaced it with a high-end Electrolux, which over 4 years has already had the heat pump assembly replaced twice, the second time it cost half of the original price of the machine. So, which machine was better for the environment and my bank account?

In Europe at least, AEG, Electrolux, Zanussi are just brand names and slightly different fascias/interfaces on the same machines, with AEG being the premium brand, Electrolux mid market and Zanussi cheap. Had a Zanussi washer dryer replaced under warranty with an Electrolux machine that went on to develop exactly the same unresolvable issue in the same time (a manufacturing fault with the bearing in the fan assembly).
 
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Don’t mean to drag this out but we have some kind of Japanese vine here and I have never witnessed such an invasive vine. It is literally knocking over trees as it completely engulfs them and makes them top heavy. It’s the weirdest thing and it is an amazing specimen too bad it does so much damage. I need to do what you did and look it up as I just found out about its Japanese origins through an arborist I was talking to (I’m just guessing he knows what he is talking about). Between that and some Asian beetle that is eating trees in our area it’s pretty sad. I mean you can’t get mad at the bugs and vines they didn’t know they were supposed to stop at immigration, they just do what they do.

Could it be Japanese Knotweed now categorised as one of the most invasive species?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynoutria_japonica

It took over a garden I had in the 1980's and I became fascinated by it because it seemed impossible to clear, grew at an astonishing rate and any information was hard to come by then.
The roots are rhizomial - one large underground network.
 
Wetworks
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The hubris and lack of self-awareness (downright dichotomous) in this thread is mind-numbing, especially on something as indulgent as a watch collectors site. But please, continue. 🍿
 
The Father
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The self-assuredness and lack of ones one character in this thread is tiresome, especially on something as decadent as watch collectors site.
Hope we do not mind that I took the liberty to translate the comment into specific English. I am a little slower than most.

There is no incongruity between owning or enjoying a “luxury” watch and caring and acting in manner for the betterment of the environment as it relates to lessening effects on the Earths amazing possibly one of kind climate.

Now when billionaire assholes take dozens of private jets to a Jackson Hole Wyoming exclusive resorts and scold us common folk on climate change. (Had to close surrounding air space so all the private jets could take off)
“Do as I say, not as I do” Well to put it mildly, eat me.
 
gbesq
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I hate to be the pessimist in the room, but when you look at the parade of horrors that the human race has visited upon itself and the planet, particularly over the past 100 years or so, I don’t hold out much hope that we’ll still be here in another few generations. I’d really like to be wrong.
 
Archer
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The Father The Father
There is no incongruity between owning or enjoying a “luxury” watch and caring and acting in manner for the betterment of the environment as it relates to lessening effects on the Earths amazing possibly one of kind climate.

I just went back and read through this thread to see if I missed where someone was seriously suggesting that there is an “incongruity” as you seem to be refuting, but I didn’t see it...

I think we all indulge in watches, and realize it’s an indulgence . No one is suggesting that we all give up everything, just to put forward ideas that others may be able to use.
 
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Archer Archer
I just went back and read through this thread to see if I missed where someone was seriously suggesting that there is an “incongruity” as you seem to be refuting, but I didn’t see it...

I think we all indulge in watches, and realize it’s an indulgence . No one is suggesting that we all give up everything, just to put forward ideas that others may be able to use.
@Archer, wasn't the message just prior to @The Father 's, the one that triggered his comment?
And I think that @The Father was Refuting the suggested "incongruity".

see below:

Wetworks Wetworks
The hubris and lack of self-awareness (downright dichotomous) in this thread is mind-numbing, especially on something as indulgent as a watch collectors site. But please, continue. 🍿
 
Archer
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MTROIS MTROIS
@Archer, wasn't the message just prior to @The Father 's, the one that triggered his comment?
And I think that @The Father was Refuting the suggested "incongruity".

see below:

I’ll be honest...I don’t take comments like those seriously...
 
The Father
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@Archer, wasn't the message just prior to @The Father 's, the one that triggered his comment?
And I think that @The Father was Refuting the suggested "incongruity".

see below:

I guess I should have done my previous post as a reply. Thanks for the clarification from the review booth.
 
Stripey
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The Father The Father
I guess I should have done my previous post as a reply. Thanks for the clarification from the review booth.
It was obvious what you were replying to, and I agree with your reply wholeheartedly.
 
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dsio dsio
Had to clean up some fighting and political stuff, try to be cool to each other.

Just hard to be cool with all this global warming ::stirthepot::

🤦🤦 I will leave now
 
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