Originally about tariffs and watches ... now just political rambling

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You are denying it, but that is de facto the same thing as saying the rural votes should count more than urban votes. I don't see any other way to interpret your comments. You may not realize this, but that sounds like a dog-whistle.

As you probably know, the electoral college was originally created to benefit the southern states in the context of the 3/5 rule.
I was referring to within state elections which would decide the electoral college votes of said state (barring faithless electors of the EC). The system isn’t perfect, but it’s the best in the world in my opinion.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg...po77477/pdf/GOVPUB-Y3_EL2_5-PURL-gpo77477.pdf
 
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Trumpl just swayed Australia's Federal election in ( not so) unexpected ways ... The Liberal Party's Leader campained with weak, but clear Mini Trump attitude. Then Agent Orange started his Tariffs; 10% for Australia with no Trade Imbalance with the US.
Result: the Liberal leader lost his Seat, was kicked out of Parliament and Labour won the Majority outright. Seems like Australians are well educated , see through BS and like Education, free Health care , free Trade and happy local faces, when they travel overseas , more than empty Bluster.
To the White House: Don't call us. We call you.
 
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You are denying it, but that is de facto the same thing as saying the rural votes should count more than urban votes. I don't see any other way to interpret your comments. You may not realize this, but that sounds like a dog-whistle.

As you probably know, the electoral college was originally created to benefit the southern states in the context of the 3/5 rule.

Someone smarter and more knowledgeable than me suggested that one fix would be to increase the number of representatives in the House. There is precedence for this, as the number has increased in the past as the population grew. Setting a cap on the current number of representatives on states with larger populations gives more influence to less dense states. In short, it ain't fair.
 
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(Please don’t miss the fact that the citizenry in urban centers eat and depend on what is produced in the rural ones).
If you want to dive into this then it's also worth mentioning the large amount of tax dollars from those urban centers those producers get in the form of government handouts aka subsidies.

Also the effects of the large amounts of water used in rural areas to grow water intensive crops like soy and alfalfa to export to China. All while again receiving government handouts.
 
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Someone smarter and more knowledgeable than me suggested that one fix would be to increase the number of representatives in the House. There is precedence for this, as the number has increased in the past as the population grew. Setting a cap on the current number of representatives on states with larger populations gives more influence to less dense states. In short, it ain't fair.
That could help a bit, but the winner-takes-all assignment of electoral votes is also very anti-democratic, IMO. Combined with the +2 each state gets for the senators (regardless of population), the system is absurdly skewed and amenable to manipulation.
 
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Well, it's probably time to follow Dennis's example.

A head in a jar would be a better candidate than Trump.

Trump is an empty sack of a human who is a useful tool for others to manipulate. He doesn't know what he is signing when he signs the executive orders and exhibits clear signs of dementia. In his case, the signs are harder to see because he's always been that way, at least according to what his family says about him.

As to comparing him to Kamala and Hillary, we may not like all their policies but those two were light years ahead in their knowledge, experience, accomplishments, and character.
Trump's tariff policies seem to highlight the extent of his incoherent, chaotic incompetence (or those advising him). There’s no genius or master plan behind those eyes. He started a massive trade war that working-class Americans will pay for, against an adversary that only needs to be patient to win.

I agree with you on all your points, except about Kamala specifically. I'm really surprised so many people still have positive things to say about her. Perhaps in Australia we saw more of her unscripted camera appearances and interviews. US media seemed pretty well choreographed by comparison.
 
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That could help a bit, but the winner-takes-all assignment of electoral votes is also very anti-democratic, IMO. Combined with the +2 each state gets for the senators (regardless of population), the system is absurdly skewed and amenable to manipulation.
I think I suggested this about 2 pages ago.

However, I also said that large states will likely never adopt this method as it would dilute their power.

Frankly, I don’t see anything more from the multi-state compact. They got what they are going to get.

The only answer to enhance representation is to actually enhance representation by increasing the total number of Representatives. Right now, we are at 1 per 800,000 of population. Seems too thin to me. The last adjustment in the number of representatives was in 1913, when the population was less than 1/3 of what it is now.

That’s really the only way to make the Electoral College a more accurate snapshot of who the people really voted for.

Yet another example of the continuing failure of our legislative branch. Now we have a president who is absolutely taking advantage of this abdication of responsibility.
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I agree with you on all your points, except about Kamala specifically. I'm really surprised so many people still have positive things to say about her. Perhaps in Australia we saw more of her unscripted camera appearances and interviews. US media seemed pretty well choreographed by comparison.

She was done a disservice by her advisors and the democrats playbook. She was a good trooper and kept to the script, which at the time I thought was a mistake. James Carville would likely have gotten her elected had he been given a chance. She was better when she went off script.

BUT, not sure how her worst appearances could compare to Trump trying to drink a glass of water or pronounce simple words or attempt to give a straight answer to any question.
 
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She was done a disservice by her advisors and the democrats playbook. She was a good trooper and kept to the script, which at the time I thought was a mistake. James Carville would likely have gotten her elected had he been given a chance. She was better when she went off script.

BUT, not sure how her worst appearances could compare to Trump trying to drink a glass of water or pronounce simple words or attempt to give a straight answer to any question.

How can you give a straight answer to any question, if you don't understand the question ...
 
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I'm really surprised so many people still have positive things to say about her. Perhaps in Australia we saw more of her unscripted camera appearances and interviews. US media seemed pretty well choreographed by comparison.
I've seen lots of her unscripted via social media, independent new sites, etc. Almost all in fact as I don't subscribe to cable TV or any news channels. I would confidently say much more than you have as I closely followed not just this past election but also the previous including the primaries for those. I disagree with your opinion.
 
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The last adjustment in the number of representatives was in 1913, when the population was less than 1/3 of what it is now.
One of the biggest scams in America is this notion that a bunch of guys in wigs 200+ years ago got the rules for governing 99.9% right. Even if they themselves didn't believe that. The fact that we haven't adopted changes for modern times throws off the balance of power which goes against a main pillar they established in the first place.
 
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I've seen lots of her unscripted via social media, independent new sites, etc. Almost all in fact as I don't subscribe to cable TV or any news channels. I would confidently say much more than you have as I closely followed not just this past election but also the previous including the primaries for those. I disagree with your opinion.
Cory Booker would have been my choice. But we didn't him.
 
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One of the biggest scams in America is this notion that a bunch of guys in wigs 200+ years ago got the rules for governing 99.9% right. Even if they themselves didn't believe that. The fact that we haven't adopted changes for modern times throws off the balance of power which goes against a main pillar they established in the first place.
You obviously flunked history.
 
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Trump's tariff policies seem to highlight the extent of his incoherent, chaotic incompetence (or those advising him). There’s no genius or master plan behind those eyes. He started a massive trade war that working-class Americans will pay for, against an adversary that only needs to be patient to win.

I agree with you on all your points, except about Kamala specifically. I'm really surprised so many people still have positive things to say about her. Perhaps in Australia we saw more of her unscripted camera appearances and interviews. US media seemed pretty well choreographed by comparison.
Can you elaborate on what specific policies she was putting forward that made her a poor candidate?
 
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You obviously flunked history.
I'm beginning to delve into American history a little bit.
One of my nieces got me to watch a show recently.
I'm ashamed to admit that I'd never realised that your founding fathers were all of African-American descent. It was also interesting to learn that everyone conversed through song rather than speech. I'm looking forward to the next episode.
 
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I'm beginning to delve into American history a little bit.
One of my nieces got me to watch a show recently.
I'm ashamed to admit that I'd never realised that your founding fathers were all of African-American descent. It was also interesting to learn that everyone conversed through song rather than speech. I'm looking forward to the next episode.
Actually, I believe that some were Latino, and rapping was more common than singing.
 
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Can you elaborate on what specific policies she was putting forward that made her a poor candidate?
I don’t think he’s referring to the policies, more the general charisma and ability to inspire supporters. AOC, Bernie, Obama, even Tim Walz appeared to have that to a far greater extent.
 
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I'm beginning to delve into American history a little bit.
One of my nieces got me to watch a show recently.
I'm ashamed to admit that I'd never realised that your founding fathers were all of African-American descent. It was also interesting to learn that everyone conversed through song rather than speech. I'm looking forward to the next episode.
Yeah same way Jesus was of Scandinavia descent.