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  1. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 29, 2012

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  2. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Aug 29, 2012

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    I think the aging of the dial is what is in common - Dennis' piece is the earlier and much less common cal. 504 movement with rose gold markers.
     
  3. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Aug 29, 2012

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    Yep, that dial looks like the real deal. Surprised it's on a 561 though, used to seeing these with 50x's.
     
  4. MKelley

    MKelley Aug 30, 2012

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    I like it. Is anyone on the forum bidding on this? If not, I may give it a go. If so, I'll move on.
     
  5. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 30, 2012

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    I am :p
     
  6. MKelley

    MKelley Aug 30, 2012

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    Well, ok then. I'm backing off. Good Luck:thumbsup:
     
  7. alam

    alam Aug 30, 2012

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    +1 :D
     
  8. alam

    alam Aug 30, 2012

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    hey, bidding ends coincidentally on my birthday! :whistling: so everyone....... back off! ::bleh::
     
  9. MKelley

    MKelley Aug 30, 2012

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    ::bleh::
     
  10. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Aug 30, 2012

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    Already gave some inside info to Ashley. Don't worry, there will be others.
     
  11. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Aug 30, 2012

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    Lots of problems with this watch - not a good example at all. The dial (not something I would go for) aside, the case is overpolished and the movement shows its age. For me it is a piece to avoid.
     
  12. alam

    alam Aug 30, 2012

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    Ok, I'm trying to educate myself here.

    I can live with the dial. Define lots of problems. How do you gauge the case is over polished from the pictures. What are the indicators?
     
  13. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Aug 30, 2012

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    Kind of like dials. If it's too shiny, then be wary. Most Omega's didn't have highly polished cases when new.

    A 60-year old watch is probably going to have some scratches on the case. These can generally be carefully removed without rounding the edges on the case. However, most shops rely on repair quantity rather than quality. So here comes the wire brushes and grinding wheels. This results in rounded edges on the case, particularly on solid gold or steel cases.

    Gold-filled or capped cases may have rounded edges even on NOS pieces. This is because the gold layer has to go over the metal case.

    Hope this helps,
    gatorcpa
     
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  14. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Aug 30, 2012

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    Learning about cases and dials and movements for vintage omegas takes a lot of time just looking at many, many examples and discussing select pieces with friends both online and offline. I would say to get your feet wet you would need to see a few hundred examples to get good at it you will need to see a few thousand. No shortcuts here - it's really like learning a trade or an apprenticeship - you figure out the basics and then practice, practice, practice and once you are done you practice some more.
     
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  15. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Aug 30, 2012

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    As said above by gator and MSN, it's about knowing what is right from Bienne. For some cases, there are certain spots to look for. The beveled edge a bezel or how crisp the edge of the bend on the top of the dog leg lug on a 16x.005 are a couple of examples.
     
  16. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 30, 2012

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    Checking in from Jackson Hole, Wyoming. I like the dial, but not the case. The message here is to try to find a pristine watch, undamaged by time, or baring that, find beautiful forgotten piece lost in history but undamaged by misguided money seekers and bring it back to life, proud in the marks of its history.

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  17. Gavin

    Gavin It's the quiet ones you have to 'watch' out for. Aug 30, 2012

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    Just for interest's sake, does an unpolished case warrant a much higher asking price as compared to a polished one? This seems to be true for Rolex but not sure if it is for Omega. If higher, how much higher?
     
  18. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Aug 31, 2012

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    The answer is of course - the unpolished case makes the piece more valuable. The premium depends on the model - anywhere from 20% to over 100% higher - the more valuable the piece the higher the premium.
     
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  19. Gavin

    Gavin It's the quiet ones you have to 'watch' out for. Sep 5, 2012

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    Sold for 493.56. Did anyone of us get it?
     
  20. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 5, 2012

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    I offered him 650 and he turned me down lol