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  1. Watchout312 Nov 22, 2018

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    It’s priced highly at $3,075 the serial # is a little high for the model with case in the 30million range, however I have found examples on line that matched.

    My concerns are the bezel and dial, are they too good to be true, I have seen the counterfeit 120 kits and it does not appear to be one of those Ie. darker logo in the fake. D7CF1434-F58E-4EA0-A7E5-D07AB90AC4CA.jpeg 51FB373A-B236-48B6-A914-F55E2D6CCDCA.jpeg C432FBF7-57DF-4106-A795-1405801F9E9B.jpeg 8C61F0B5-AE12-40EA-B5EA-A3744B41912E.jpeg DB3D2BF3-A273-4174-9CB6-26ACC237C18D.jpeg

    What are your opinions, should I pass or begin to negotiate a better price.
     
  2. justinz Nov 22, 2018

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    I’d be suspicious of the bezel.
     
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  3. Watchout312 Nov 22, 2018

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    I agree that’s what making me hold off. What do you think about dial?
     
  4. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Nov 22, 2018

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    I'm skeptical of both, given that the case back is far from mint.
     
  5. Shabbaz Nov 22, 2018

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    I said it before. For me there are two possibilities for these kind of 120's:

    1) This watch was made and somebody put it directly in a drawer/safe. Otherwise a dial and bezel would not look like that.

    2) bezel and dial (and hands) are fake.

    Given the nature of the caseback (like @Tony C. said) it's unlikely it was put in a drawer/safe so my guess is nr. 2...

    I would assume that every bezel that comes in contact with the sun, etc, has some discolaration. Some kind of fading (see pictures).

    Anyway, I would never buy one of these just because of the doubts that I would always have...
     
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  6. Shabbaz Nov 22, 2018

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    It's a 136027 but what is that caliber? Should be a 613 but I'm not reading it... getting blind...
     
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  7. Watchout312 Nov 22, 2018

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    It’s all wrong, I am moving on lol. If anyone comes across a good example of a 120, please let me know.
     
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    I have seen them with and without. I agreed with the straight lug comment, until I received more pics. The original pics are deceiving, the new pics resemble the curved lugs.

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  11. Watchout312 Dec 1, 2018

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  12. COYI Dec 1, 2018

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    Yes, that looks correct
     
  13. Deldog Dec 2, 2018

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    There is a decent one at Watch Garage. However, upon close inspection, the backs of the lugs look a little torn up. The pics aren't the best, so it's tough to spot. Worth a look, though, and I know he'll move on the price a little. ... Good luck. Your patience will pay off.