Opinions on this CK 2576 with bumper movement

Knebo · Sep 13, 2025

Hello all,

I've long been on the lookout for a 1950s beefy-lugs, small seconds, bumper movement Seamaster WITHOUT lume.

One just came up.

What do you think about the dial and hands? ?

To me, the case and caseback look good. Movement, too. The hour markers looks like they're not supposed to have a lume dot, which is reassuring (beveled instead of rounded on the outside). The dial also has a "believable" patina. But I haven't seen many no-lume dials, so hoping for your feedback!

Thanks in advance!

Dan S · Sep 13, 2025

Decent early Seamaster, with some wear and aging, but still has a lot of charm, IMO. There is a whole thread on the ref 2577, which is the center-second version.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-us-your-2577-omega-seamaster-and-a-little-introduction-to-the-reference.153541/

Thread 'Show us your 2577 Omega Seamaster (and a little introduction to the reference)' ·

To the mods: I have to split this up in 2-3 posts, otherwise I get an error before I can hit "Create Thread", apologies for that.

"Too long, didn't read": A little introduction to the...

MtV · Dec 12, 2022

ErichKeane · Sep 13, 2025

The aged dial is subtle and nice, I think that looks good. One of the nicer looking of this style. Though, the 'automatic' word seems to taper off a little/get smaller in that picture? And the 'E' in omega looks 'bolder'. Not saying it is a redial/partial repaint yet, but perhaps something worth getting more pictures of to make sure. (Though also, a LOT of this variant online seems to have this, so it is either a common printing, common repaint, or common problem taking photos of these).

Hands and indices look lovely. Overall, a lot of charm. The case is a bit 'soft', it has hit a buffing wheel a few times, but not overly so.

Picture of the movement isn't perfect, but it looks in good enough shape.

Movement itself: The 343 and 344 are 'better' versions of the movement (343 is chronometer and a different regulator), but not enough so that it'd be worth it to pay particularly more for.

I have a bumper with the 351 (basically identical to this movement except with a date, in a 2635-1) that is a lovely movement. Mine needs TLC, but overall its great (though not as charming as the above!).

NOte that while this is a ~35mm watch (I think it is 34.5mm?) it is going to 'look' a little 'small' thanks to the sizable bezel.

So in summary: Pretty lovely if it isn't a repaint. It is probably a good deal if you can get it about ~$550 based on some brief research, and if it were me, I'd want to do a lot more looking at photos/timegrapher/etc before paying more than ~$800.

Knebo · Sep 13, 2025

Dan S
Decent early Seamaster, with some wear and aging, but still has a lot of charm, IMO. There is a whole thread on the ref 2577, which is the center-second version.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-us-your-2577-omega-seamaster-and-a-little-introduction-to-the-reference.153541/

Thread 'Show us your 2577 Omega Seamaster (and a little introduction to the reference)' ·
To the mods: I have to split this up in 2-3 posts, otherwise I get an error before I can hit "Create Thread", apologies for that.

"Too long, didn't read": A little introduction to the...

MtV · Dec 12, 2022

ErichKeane
The aged dial is subtle and nice, I think that looks good. One of the nicer looking of this style. Though, the 'automatic' word seems to taper off a little/get smaller in that picture? And the 'E' in omega looks 'bolder'. Not saying it is a redial/partial repaint yet, but perhaps something worth getting more pictures of to make sure. (Though also, a LOT of this variant online seems to have this, so it is either a common printing, common repaint, or common problem taking photos of these).

Hands and indices look lovely. Overall, a lot of charm. The case is a bit 'soft', it has hit a buffing wheel a few times, but not overly so.

Picture of the movement isn't perfect, but it looks in good enough shape.

Movement itself: The 343 and 344 are 'better' versions of the movement (343 is chronometer and a different regulator), but not enough so that it'd be worth it to pay particularly more for.

I have a bumper with the 351 (basically identical to this movement except with a date, in a 2635-1) that is a lovely movement. Mine needs TLC, but overall its great (though not as charming as the above!).

NOte that while this is a ~35mm watch (I think it is 34.5mm?) it is going to 'look' a little 'small' thanks to the sizable bezel.

So in summary: Pretty lovely if it isn't a repaint. It is probably a good deal if you can get it about ~$550 based on some brief research, and if it were me, I'd want to do a lot more looking at photos/timegrapher/etc before paying more than ~$800.

Thank you very much for your feedback! Much appreciated.
I went through the whole 2577 thread and certainly learned a lot. But I didn't see any no-lume dials like this one.

Regarding the Automatic text, it indeed seems to be similar to many early 2577/2576 - as you say @ErichKeane . The taper is less evident on other pics. I'm rather positive on it. I think the "E" is also ok and seems less bold on other pictures.

Here are a few more pictures.

Knebo · Sep 13, 2025

PS: asking price is 1200 EUR... I hope negotiable.

Regarding movement/timegrapher, I'm less concerned because I service all my watches myself anyway.

Dan S · Sep 13, 2025

I'd have a hard time paying that much. Sometimes a seller just can't be convinced to be realistic. Good luck!

Knebo · Sep 13, 2025

Dan S
I'd have a hard time paying that much. Sometimes a seller just can't be convinced to be realistic. Good luck!

Yes, won't buy at that price.
But any further thoughts on the print? If it's repainted, I'm out, even at 100 bucks. If the dial is original, I'd negotiate.

Dan S · Sep 13, 2025

I have no problem with the printing.

ErichKeane · Sep 13, 2025

Dan S
I have no problem with the printing.

Yeah. Other angles look better. Cell phone image processing does aweful things these days.

Knebo · Sep 14, 2025

Thanks again @Dan S and @ErichKeane.
I received this closeup picture from the buyer. I think it puts it beyond doubt that it's original.

MtV · Sep 14, 2025

Knebo
I went through the whole 2577 thread and certainly learned a lot. But I didn't see any no-lume dials like this one.

There are a few non-luminous examples in there. But they are indeed less common than luminous ones. This particular one you’re looking at is attractive to my eyes. I’ll second the assessment by @Dan S : original, 1200€ is too much.

A couple more comments:

ErichKeane
The case is a bit 'soft', it has hit a buffing wheel a few times

I‘d disagree. It’s definitely one of the sharper 2576 (or early 2577) cases I’ve seen. To me, the case is the best thing on this watch, frankly.

ErichKeane
The 343 and 344 are 'better' versions of the movement (343 is chronometer and a different regulator), but not enough so that it'd be worth it to pay particularly more for.

Chronometre versions do fetch significantly higher prices. Same for 2577s. The question if it‘s worth it, though, is of course a personal one.

ErichKeane
I have a bumper with the 351 (basically identical to this movement except with a date

351 would be the early center second version. However, it does not feature a date.

ErichKeane
It is probably a good deal if you can get it about ~$550

I‘d consider 550$ an absolute bargain.

Knebo · Sep 14, 2025

I went for it!
Seller went down a bit on the price and I couldn't resist. To a 1000 bucks. Not a steal, but fair, I think/hope. I really wanted a no-lume dial and hadn't seen one for sale in a very long time.

I'll update the thread with more pics when I receive it.

ErichKeane · Sep 14, 2025

MtV
I‘d disagree. It’s definitely one of the sharper 2576 (or early 2577) cases I’ve seen. To me, the case is the best thing on this watch, frankly.

Entirely possible, I was speaking vintage in general. It has seen a polishing wheel or two, but not an overly large amount. For vintage in general, its "middle of the road" IMO (I've definitely seen many sharper ones of this vintage), but you'd know the 2576/2577 better than I.

MtV
Chronometre versions do fetch significantly higher prices. Same for 2577s. The question if it‘s worth it, though, is of course a personal one.

I thought I'd said about that? I guess I mixed "there is a better" with "I wouldn't pay significantly more for it".

MtV
351 would be the early center second version. However, it does not feature a date.

Ah, yes, looking again, you're right. Memory didn't serve me well, I got it confused with a different vintage Omega on my bench.

Dan S · Sep 14, 2025

Congrats, I'm sure you will enjoy it. And you could wait a long time before finding another no-lume example, if that's what you want.

Knebo · Sep 14, 2025

Dan S
Congrats, I'm sure you will enjoy it. And you could wait a long time before finding another no-lume example, if that's what you want.

Thank you very much @Dan S @ErichKeane @MtV, much appreciated.

Indeed, the absence of lume was the deciding factor for me. I service my own (and friends + friends of friends) watches and I am "allergic" to the thought of radium when the watch is open. Different story, of course, when you only wear it closed. And later tritium designs don't really tickle my fancy quite as much.

bardamu · Sep 14, 2025

Knebo
I went for it!
Seller went down a bit on the price and I couldn't resist. To a 1000 bucks. Not a steal, but fair, I think/hope. I really wanted a no-lume dial and hadn't seen one for sale in a very long time.

I'll update the thread with more pics when I receive it.

I think you bought a very nice watch, congrats!
Love no-lume dials from that era!

Knebo · Sep 27, 2025

Got the watch and really happy with it! Gorgeous.

Needs a service urgently though...so I'm on that. Hopefully it'll run well when I'm done with it. I reduced the endshake on a 3rd wheel and escape wheel, which was a bit much. Also corrected the hairspring a little bit, as it wasn't perfectly flat. And cleaned off endless amounts of red, tiny fibres.