Opinions on this 168.024?

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Hi again folks,

Thanks all for your continued patience and generosity helping me on my vintage Seamaster journey. I've decided to broaden my search to include both 166.010 non-Chronograph and 168.024 chronograph references. I still visually prefer the simpler dial of the 166.010 but the more I read, the more I can also appreciate the desirability of a chronograph.

Wanted to ask what people thought of this buy at ~$1,200. I'd need to source my own BOR bracelet (adding an additional $300 to the cost). Besides some pitting on the hands though it seems to be in beautiful condition. The movement looks relatively clean to me and I'm encouraged by the timegrapher reading. Do you think I need to be budgeting for an immediate full service for this watch? At $1500 total I think I could justify it, but if it'll take another $300-$400 to get it in reliable condition I'll probably pass. What do you think?

 
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Hi again folks,

Thanks all for your continued patience and generosity helping me on my vintage Seamaster journey. I've decided to broaden my search to include both 166.010 non-Chronograph and 168.024 chronograph references. I still visually prefer the simpler dial of the 166.010 but the more I read, the more I can also appreciate the desirability of a chronograph.

Wanted to ask what people thought of this buy at ~$1,200. I'd need to source my own BOR bracelet (adding an additional $300 to the cost). Besides some pitting on the hands though it seems to be in beautiful condition. The movement looks relatively clean to me and I'm encouraged by the timegrapher reading. Do you think I need to be budgeting for an immediate full service for this watch? At $1500 total I think I could justify it, but if it'll take another $300-$400 to get it in reliable condition I'll probably pass. What do you think?

To me it looks polished and refinished. That's not such a bad way to go, but obviously some of the sharpness is gone from the lines of the lugs.

The lighting is doing some favors to the hands, I think in person they would look quite worn and pitted. For $1200, I think that's too much. That's likely what the owner has in it; they probably paid to refinish the case, and service. But for less, you can start with something that's better.

edit: For example, here is something from the private seller's section.

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Two things to add:

1. Upon further reflection, the timegrapher reading is both a) not particularly good and b) wouldn't indicate need of service or lack thereof anyway. So I should probably budget that service in regardless.

2. This piece is currently also listed on a Japanese auction for ¥121000. Using a proxy bidding service, I'm calculating that it would come to about ~$900 to have it shipped to the US.
 
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To me it looks polished and refinished. That's not such a bad way to go, but obviously some of the sharpness is gone from the lines of the lugs.

The lighting is doing some favors to the hands, I think in person they would look quite worn and pitted. For $1200, I think that's too much. That's likely what the owner has in it; they probably paid to refinish the case, and service. But for less, you can start with something that's better.

edit: For example, here is something from the private seller's section.

Good call on the lugs. Would you consider this a skilled / light polishing/refinishing? I have to admit I was impressed by the correct brushing and maintained corners.

And yes, I certainly have my eye on Hant's listings as well but I'd really like to find one with onyx hour markers.
 
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Hi again folks,

Thanks all for your continued patience and generosity helping me on my vintage Seamaster journey. I've decided to broaden my search to include both 166.010 non-Chronograph and 168.024 chronograph references. I still visually prefer the simpler dial of the 166.010 but the more I read, the more I can also appreciate the desirability of a chronograph.

Wanted to ask what people thought of this buy at ~$1,200. I'd need to source my own BOR bracelet (adding an additional $300 to the cost). Besides some pitting on the hands though it seems to be in beautiful condition. The movement looks relatively clean to me and I'm encouraged by the timegrapher reading. Do you think I need to be budgeting for an immediate full service for this watch? At $1500 total I think I could justify it, but if it'll take another $300-$400 to get it in reliable condition I'll probably pass. What do you think?

It may have only been a typo, but chronometer and chronograph are two very different things. This is a chronometer movement but not a chronograph.
 
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It may have only been a typo, but chronometer and chronograph are two very different things. This is a chronometer movement but not a chronograph.
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Thanks for the correction.
 
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Agree with above opinion that watch may well have had refinishing work.
Buying from Japan may look attractive but keep in mind
1. Import fees
2. Likely unable to return

It’s ok if you are experienced and know what you’re looking for and ok with the risk, but not great choice for beginner, it’s the deep end of the pool.
You’re better off taking advice given already to be patient and find good option from reliable seller here for your first watch.
 
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I'd be worried about the hands being worse than you think. I think the lighting is hiding their true condition. I'd also think it would need a service.

It's a really nice-looking reference though. I can see why you'd be attracted to it.
 
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Is this reference supposed to have a gold date window when all the other dial furniture is silver? Just asking, because it just looks weird, and to be honest, I’m curious.
 
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I would personally pay a bit more for one in better condition costs can really blow out if you're having to get repairs or components replaced yourself.