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  1. Dablitzer Mar 23, 2013

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    Came across this and would like first impressions and a rough estimate as to what they go for?... Interest in something similar in this condition...

    Does the dial look too far gone? Pictures could be deceiving but I think it's pink gold...:D

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  2. Mothra Mar 23, 2013

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    That bridge is a different colour to the rest of the movement - that would be enough for me to avoid this one - its had a tough life...
     
  3. Dablitzer Mar 23, 2013

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    Can you post a pic of your one?...just for posterity? ;)
     
  4. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Mar 23, 2013

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  5. Dablitzer Mar 23, 2013

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  6. adam78 Adam @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 23, 2013

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    What about this one?

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  7. Dablitzer Mar 23, 2013

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    Do you think the markers are Pink? :p I've got pink on the brain... What reference is that one Adam, I forgot!
     
  9. adam78 Adam @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 23, 2013

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    I'm not sure if they're pink, definitely gilt printing though...Not sure of the reference (cal. 561), but the seller should be able to post a case back photo if asked. It seems pretty nice, case and lug edges are sharp, although the dial spotting suggests moisture damage.
     
  10. Dablitzer Mar 23, 2013

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    I have already spoke to him. This one was previously sold, but the buyer wasn't happy with the dial in real life. He wanted one with a clean black dial. looks like its pretty obvious it's got measles! Still a nice watch though. Still surprised its lasted that long...!
     
  11. DON Mar 23, 2013

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    Looks like a refinished dial
     
  12. Dablitzer Mar 23, 2013

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    Which one?
     
  13. DON Mar 23, 2013

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    Both. I'm sure Connie's were never sold with black dials. People refinish them in black as it brings in more money when nicely done. These look like old redials.

    Also - Connies never sold with BOR bracelets. Designed for the Seamaster line of watches
     
  14. Dablitzer Mar 23, 2013

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    Hmmm...really? I'm pretty sure mine isn't a re-dial..

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    Given, it is a honeycomb dial. But my point is, they did have black dial constellations..But, they were certainly more uncommon!

    The other two, IMO are original, both gilt printing..pass all the regular checks..the first just looks a little less because the bubbling has distorted the text somewhat.
     
  15. DON Mar 23, 2013

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    Have you viewed all 3 out of the cases and checked the dial edges? Two of the auction only show in the case. You look for a small V notch on the dial edge. It's an indicator to show the refinisher where to line up the printing pad.

    Gilt printing is nothing more than paint. Silver, yellow or pink/rose gold to match the indexs. I did it many times if I redid dials in black for certain models. A good dial refinisher knows his work and I used one of the best in NA for more than 10 years

    Have your movement and dial taken out of the case and check the edges. Usually at one of the main hour markers.
     
  16. Dablitzer Mar 23, 2013

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    I guess there is always a possibility. I think (if I was in line) for any of the above I would want to check that out, unfortunately it's hard to tell with ebay as the pictures aren't always detailed enough, either from inexperienced sellers or con artists..Thanks for the info! Nobody has actually answered my original question, current market value of these watches, with black dial and pink markers.
     
  17. adam78 Adam @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 23, 2013

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    There have been many genuine black-dial Constellations shown by members on this forum. I'm sure you are not correct about that.
     
  18. ulackfocus Mar 23, 2013

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    Don - Omega certainly did make black dialed Constellations. They came domed and pie pan, and were used on the 50x series as well as the 55x/56x calibers. Plenty of us own and have owned original factory finished black Connies. Here's my old 2943 which I got an extract from Omega on:

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    This watch was formerly owned by Desmond / mondodec, who outbid the Omega museum to get it. It's now owned by forum member Angel / alam.
     
  19. DON Mar 23, 2013

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    I'm just going by information that someone told me
     
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  20. ulackfocus Mar 23, 2013

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    No worries Don.