(Oops, doesn't look like it is. Oh well) Straight lug Speedy at auction in UK

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This is at an auction house fairly near to me that a few times a year has an interesting watch. Here is the link: https://www.willinghamauctions.com/...que-good-quality-modern-collectables-lot-269/

Estimate is £1,500 - £3,000 which seems crazy to me if it isn't a franken. I do have an account with them and could take a look the metal if it helps anyone, I have never seen any Speedy Pro in the hand though so don't put too much reliance on that. I am not planning to bid on it although I might attend the auction.

Edit: date of auction is Saturday 27th May 2023
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Straight lug? Maybe I'm missing something but from the photo in the OP and the ones in the link, this looks to be a twisted lug speedmaster rather than a straight lug. Couldn't be 100% sure, and I'm asking here more than stating, but with the applied metal logo, the twisted lugs, and we'd need to see a movement photo to know for sure; wouldn't more likely this be either a 145.022-68 or a 145.012? Estimate would still seem low but the condition could be driving that.
 
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No crown guards professional???? A no crown guard with lyre lugs??? Straight lugs are way different looking but have no crown guards.

Nope looked at the better photos.. Def not a straight lug or a no crown guards lyre lug.


just a meh 145.012 or early 145.022. They should have at least cleaned it up before selling... with the dirt on the case and bezel, plus the blown-out dial shot, it's not going to bring good money as it might be ok or a turd... Dial and hands are nothing special, the bezel might be ok, and the case is ???? who knows
 
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No crown guards professional???? A no crown guard with lyre lugs??? Straight lugs are way different looking but have no crown guards.

Nope looked at the better photos.. Def not a straight lug or a no crown guards lyre lug.


just a meh 145.012 or early 145.022. They should have at least cleaned it up before selling... with the dirt on the case and bezel, plus the blown-out dial shot, it's not going to bring good money as it might be ok or a turd... Dial and hands are nothing special, the bezel might be ok, and the case is ???? who knows


This is at an auction house fairly near to me that a few times a year has an interesting watch. Here is the link: https://www.willinghamauctions.com/...que-good-quality-modern-collectables-lot-269/

Estimate is £1,500 - £3,000 which seems crazy to me if it isn't a franken. I do have an account with them and could take a look the metal if it helps anyone, I have never seen any Speedy Pro in the hand though so don't put too much reliance on that. I am not planning to bid on it although I might attend the auction.

Edit: date of auction is Saturday 27th May 2023
 
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Hi, will you be having a look at it today?
Lol no. The piece has obvious issues.
 
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Just shite photography.

Decent DON bezel, good caseback, which might indicate the case is not heavily worn either. Might be an okay 145.022-68. Hands look like loss of lume. Probably a good buy for under the high estimate. But the estimate is probably as bad as the photos.

 
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Either way, good or bad watch, the estimate is low for a reason....to attract bidders. The probability that it will sell in the range of £1K - £3K is very close to zero.
 
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A 68 321 transitional would be a nice surprise and an 861 transitional not the end of the world. Probably the 861. Would that be too expensive?
 
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It's a '67, clean and tidy 26000's. Hands and crown the only downside.
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