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  1. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Sep 25, 2016

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    You're interested in vintage Omegas (who isn't!).

    You see one on eBay and think of buying it.

    So tell me about this onePurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network?

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  2. Greatpa Sep 25, 2016

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    Reference 166.0174 seems to have a day indicator as well. Incorrect hands and dial. Movement is the cal. 1022 with day-date.
     
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  3. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Sep 25, 2016

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    Probably should say Geneve on the dial not Seamaster and like @Greatpa noted. I think he nailed most of it.
     
  4. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Sep 25, 2016

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    Oh, BTW, I could name quite a few people who aren't interested in old Omegas starting with my spouse...
     
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  5. Greatpa Sep 25, 2016

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    Maybe your spouse could buy a new one http://www.omegawatches.com/ ::psy::
     
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  6. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Sep 25, 2016

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    In my dreams, pal...

    Besides, I find vintage more alluring.
     
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  7. Philliboy Sep 25, 2016

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    Anyone tell me if this is genuine?
     
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  8. Greatpa Sep 25, 2016

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    Looks OK to me, but then again.. (notice the heading for this thread ;))
     
  9. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Sep 25, 2016

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    Nice ladies watch.

    Now if I bought that for my wife she'd be OK with vintage Omegas.

    It's different when I buy for her somehow...
     
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  10. Philliboy Sep 25, 2016

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    Ha Ha thx looked ok to me too but always like a 2nd opinion!! got it at a car boot sale for £250.00 I own other Seamasters and it felt right and I got the sellers ID and address etc so cant be bad. Thanks again
     
  11. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Sep 25, 2016

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    I just woke up and realized my mistake. My apologies to the OP.

    I still feel like a n00b even though my post count is high. I just can't STFU...
     
  12. GuiltyBoomerang Sep 25, 2016

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    Dial is also a reprint. Edges look like they have seen some polish.
     
  13. arcadelt Sep 25, 2016

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    (As I write I hope my post count is still less than 50)

    Not sure of the point of this post. Testing us is not educating us, but if I was interested in that kind of watch, I certainly would do my due diligence first, which might result in posting a few targeted questions on the forum. That said, at that price I would take a punt, especially since I am covered by a very sound safety net through eBay and have almost noting to lose.
     
  14. GuiltyBoomerang Sep 25, 2016

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    One problem is is that many sellers tend to have a clause of "Refunds only if watch is not as described" and can potentially refuse to refund you if you simply change your mind. Another point is whether you are buying the watch to collect or if you are buying it because you like it. You can do both; buying a watch simmply because it looks good will in the eyes of many be fine. Purists however would point out flaws, which may have you questioning whether the purchase was worth it or not.

    This post is teaching about flaws that are relatively commonplace in watches floating on the bay. It takes time, a trained eye, knowledge, to find the deals which are value for money and are in good or better original condition - because that will be one of the things collectors want.
     
  15. dialstatic Sep 25, 2016

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    I don't really see it as a test. As a self-confessed noob, I thorougly enjoy these posts. To me, it's a fun exercise to try and spot what's wrong at first glance, and then after some research.
     
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  16. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Sep 25, 2016

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    1. It's a bit of fun (which is what this watch collecting malarkey is meant to be all about)
    2. The answers reveal themselves in the thread
    3. The watch gurus mop up any bits that get missed
    And Nobody said an education was free...;)
     
  17. Philliboy Sep 25, 2016

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    Was never trying to educate anyone was simply looking for some help soooo sorry for posting
     
  18. Philliboy Sep 25, 2016

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    Thx matey all I was looking for was a bit of confidence that this was ok cheers
     
  19. Philliboy Sep 25, 2016

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    Whats a reprint?
     
  20. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Sep 25, 2016

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    Well, testing is educating. And the point of the post and the object was to get people thinking about what they see and what they cannot see.

    The watch in question stands out as a great example of a franken, whether intentional or not, a Seamaster usually commands more than a Genève.

    Probably why the dial was replaced with an incorrect date only Seamaster version, which incidentally is too small for the watch so there may be other problems like dial stickers lurking below. Whether the dial is a re-paint or not is irrelevant, it's just wrong.

    The bracelet looks to be very worn at the head which presents another problem. Integrated case/bracelet combos make it hard to find spares if this one should break and totally preclude using a standard bracelet or strap.

    Significant corrosion in the caseback sealing area indicates to me that the watch hasn't been serviced much in its 43 year lifetime, the condition of the caliber 1022 also points to this, notice the worn rotor and corresponding marks on the inside of the caseback.

    While looking at the caseback we can see the reference numbers, specifically 366 0833. This reference can be used to check on the Omega Vintage Database which describes the watch as so:

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    So, with all of the information before you in the "test case", a reasonably minor amount of research would tell a newcomer that this is one to pass on.
     
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