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OMEGA - Vintage 1930`s Art-Deco Coin Edge CALATRAVA Steel Watch
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Syrte
·Maybe you shd consider adding the names below to the list.?...
(instead of going after well-meaning newcomers who do their homework in the right places):
Eric Wind, Aug. 1, 2014-"Longines Calatrava in 18k Yellow Gold"
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/whats-selling-where-six-timepieces-with-at-least-a-touch-of-gold
Dec. 29, 2014- "Longines Oversized Tre-Tacche Calatrava."
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/t...4-by-every-single-member-of-the-hodinkee-team
-January 26, 2015
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-find-longines-gilt-dial-tre-tacche-calatrava
-January 26, 2016 "
"Stunning Longines oversized Calatrava"
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/longines-13zn-history
March 2016 "Longines Calatrava" (with date error)
"http://shop.hodinkee.com/products/1950s-longines-calatrava?variant=16468455556"
(instead of going after well-meaning newcomers who do their homework in the right places):
Eric Wind, Aug. 1, 2014-"Longines Calatrava in 18k Yellow Gold"
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/whats-selling-where-six-timepieces-with-at-least-a-touch-of-gold
Dec. 29, 2014- "Longines Oversized Tre-Tacche Calatrava."
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/t...4-by-every-single-member-of-the-hodinkee-team
-January 26, 2015
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-find-longines-gilt-dial-tre-tacche-calatrava
-January 26, 2016 "
"Stunning Longines oversized Calatrava"
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/longines-13zn-history
March 2016 "Longines Calatrava" (with date error)
"http://shop.hodinkee.com/products/1950s-longines-calatrava?variant=16468455556"
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adam78
··Adam @ ΩFTo me, this is a coin edge (Hamilton Boone)...
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ulackfocus
·My head is going to explode.
ps - Erich is correct about the 32 mm PP Calatravas. They were made for several decades and might still be for all I know.
ps - Erich is correct about the 32 mm PP Calatravas. They were made for several decades and might still be for all I know.
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François Pépin
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A Spanish Calatrava - could also have been a Chinese tourbillon...
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mac_omega
·Maybe you shd consider adding the names below to the list.?...
(instead of going after well-meaning newcomers who do their homework in the right places):
Eric Wind, Aug. 1, 2014-"Longines Calatrava in 18k Yellow Gold"
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/whats-selling-where-six-timepieces-with-at-least-a-touch-of-gold
Dec. 29, 2014- "Longines Oversized Tre-Tacche Calatrava."
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/t...4-by-every-single-member-of-the-hodinkee-team
-January 26, 2015
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-find-longines-gilt-dial-tre-tacche-calatrava
-January 26, 2016 "
"Stunning Longines oversized Calatrava"
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/longines-13zn-history
March 2016 "Longines Calatrava" (with date error)
"http://shop.hodinkee.com/products/1950s-longines-calatrava?variant=16468455556"
A Calatrava must not have a stepped bezel or a prominently slim or fluted bezel!
One of the main aesthetics is a wide, flat bezel...
slim, slightly downturned lugs is not enough! - there are plenty of watches of different brands which show these features and should not be named Calatrava
Here is a very early rare SS version, a specimen of the Ref.96, the most famous of all references, the one which was named Calatrava first.
Pressure shut case back. diameter 30.5 mm only
still a project, not finished yet... but you can see all the important design details like the wide flat bezel.
And this is an example of the so called "Large Calatrava", the Ref. 570 which is 35mm of diameter.
This example resembles all the features which are so much appreciated of the Calatrava design:
wide, flat bezel, facetted "barr" indices, dauphine hands, large winding crown,...
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Syrte
·I had time now to visit these links above and I must say, all this "Calatrava" semantics on either the bloomberg and hodinkee sites is pure bullshit... marketing Babla...
A Calatrava must not have a stepped bezel or a prominently slim or fluted bezel!
One of the main aesthetics is a wide, flat bezel...
slim, slightly downturned lugs is not enough! - there are plenty of watches of different brands which show these features and should not be named Calatrava
Here is a very early rare SS version, a specimen of the Ref.96, the most famous of all references, the one which was named Calatrava first.
Pressure shut case back. diameter 30.5 mm only
still a project, not finished yet... but you can see all the important design details like the wide flat bezel.
And this is an example of the so called "Large Calatrava", the Ref. 570 which is 35mm of diameter.
This example resembles all the features which are so much appreciated of the Calatrava design:
wide, flat bezel, facetted "barr" indices, dauphine hands, large winding crown,...
And those are beautiful. Thanks for your very interesting explanation. 👍
@LouS, given this unique opportunity to get the "OF dictionary of horological descriptions" straight, would you have a picture illustrating what you mean is "coin-edge"?
I thought coin-edge bezel referred to this type:
Thanks and best regards,
S
PS
Oh, like Longines owners!
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Syrte
·And to round this up, Hodinkee now sells "Omega calatravas":
Hodinkee shop, 2016- 1930s Omega ‘Calatrava’ With Two-Tone Dial
http://shop.hodinkee.com/products/1930s-omega-calatrava-oversized?variant=16918006276
Hodinkee shop, 15 June 2016 -"
1930s Omega Calatrava In Solid Gold With A Black Gilt Dial"
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/hodinkee-shop-june-15-2016
Adding this Longines reference, which had slipped through the cracks:
Hodinkee Jan. 22, 2016 - "oversized Longines calatrava"
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/bring-a-loupe-january-22-2016
Hodinkee shop, 2016- 1930s Omega ‘Calatrava’ With Two-Tone Dial
http://shop.hodinkee.com/products/1930s-omega-calatrava-oversized?variant=16918006276
Hodinkee shop, 15 June 2016 -"
1930s Omega Calatrava In Solid Gold With A Black Gilt Dial"
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/hodinkee-shop-june-15-2016
Adding this Longines reference, which had slipped through the cracks:
Hodinkee Jan. 22, 2016 - "oversized Longines calatrava"
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/bring-a-loupe-january-22-2016
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Jonatan
·I learnt something today! I was convinced that when people referred to "Calatrava" or "Calatrava-like" the watch needed to have a second subdial at 6. I was, of course, aware of the fact the real Calatrava where Patek Philippe's but not the description of one. Thank you!
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorSo to Hodinkee this is Glycine Calatrava
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Syrte
·And to round this up, Hodinkee now sells "Omega calatravas":
Hodinkee shop, 2016- 1930s Omega ‘Calatrava’ With Two-Tone Dial
http://shop.hodinkee.com/products/1930s-omega-calatrava-oversized?variant=16918006276
Reading this ad again, and aside from the terminology, I can't help but notice this remarkable statement considering the $4,200 price tag:
"The probable date of manufacture is necessarily conjecture, but we’d place it at sometime in the late 1930s/early 1940s, looking at the serial number and the style of the dial."
Where's the "necessity"?
Does it mean Omega wasn't able to deliver an extract of archives pinpointing the exact date of the watch?
Or does it mean the writer is unaware of this possibility?
