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Omega Speedmaster Professional Chronograph 145.022 - Advice
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Unfamiliar_Moon
·My only advice would be to not buy a watch as an investment. Buy what you want to wear.
it’s fine to try to assure a fair market price, but to seek gains or otherwise plan for so many unknown variables is folly.
it’s fine to try to assure a fair market price, but to seek gains or otherwise plan for so many unknown variables is folly.
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Dan S
·It's not from the really desirable era of vintage Speedmasters, but it looks fine to me.
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mr_yossarian
·Welcome. Do a forum search for your seller. And 4,5k is..strong.
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Passover
·A warm welcome from Münster!
As pointed out before, buying a watch as an investment is no good idea unless you are a pro.
If you buy a watch from a dealer and you want to resell it later you will have to write off at least 30% of the value to get is sold or even more.
If you have not decided yet if you prefer a pre moon or a later one you should wait with your decision. For me it was clear from the beginning that my first Speedmaster should be pre moon but the decision should be made by everyone for himself.
Did you check all available sources, escpecially https://speedmaster101.com/ ?
Good hunting 😀
As pointed out before, buying a watch as an investment is no good idea unless you are a pro.
If you buy a watch from a dealer and you want to resell it later you will have to write off at least 30% of the value to get is sold or even more.
If you have not decided yet if you prefer a pre moon or a later one you should wait with your decision. For me it was clear from the beginning that my first Speedmaster should be pre moon but the decision should be made by everyone for himself.
Did you check all available sources, escpecially https://speedmaster101.com/ ?
Good hunting 😀
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abrod520
·Arthur's a great guy. He has somewhat high prices, but he always has great quality watches and service is A+. This one is maybe a bit expensive and if you had to sell it in the future, you probably wouldn't get your full investment back - but it's a truly wonderful piece that I personally would be pretty happy to have on my wrist. Arthur is also not the type of dealer to dismiss offers out-of-hand, so give him a ring and try maybe
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mr_yossarian
·Arthur's a great guy. He has somewhat high prices, but he always has great quality watches and service is A+. This one is maybe a bit expensive and if you had to sell it in the future, you probably wouldn't get your full investment back - but it's a truly wonderful piece that I personally would be pretty happy to have on my wrist. Arthur is also not the type of dealer to dismiss offers out-of-hand, so give him a ring and try maybe
A confirmed Ultraman..well, if you sell the hand after you got the Extract, you earn double..and the buyer of the hand does too..make 2 out of one UM, Berlin, Geneve..just one example..Take your time,research. Internet is your friend.
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OMEGuy
·Sure, I can elaborate on this later, but not now.
I would really be interested in your elaboration (personal discrepancies or not), because I didn't hear anything negative about this seller so far.
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kingsrider
·The watch looks a little banged up for its age and is overpriced considering the wear and tear. What is the dividing line these days between vintage and not vintage yet?.
PS my kids called me Boomer the other day so I guess I am vintage now.
PS my kids called me Boomer the other day so I guess I am vintage now.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Strong piece for what appears to be a stronger price. Looks like mid to late 80’s judging from the 17 marked 17 movement and other parts not looking at the serial.
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machamp6650
·Watch looks pretty clean and original for it's age / model.
Not sure if the exact year counts but ilovemyspeedmaster dates production of this serial to 1988.
Having said that, I agree the price is very strong for this watch, particularly without the bracelet. Will we see more pricing along these lines for any 861 / tritium speedmaster over the coming years? Who knows!
Not sure if the exact year counts but ilovemyspeedmaster dates production of this serial to 1988.
Having said that, I agree the price is very strong for this watch, particularly without the bracelet. Will we see more pricing along these lines for any 861 / tritium speedmaster over the coming years? Who knows!
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percymon
·I know its a very personal view, but I don't really see any appeal in a mid-late 80s watch over a new one. The colour of tritium lumed dials may appeal, but it'll be barely noticeable, if at all in the dark. A new speedie would have a robust warranty, and no need for parts/servicing for quite a few years. No questions over polished cases/lost profiles etc etc
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Passover
·I would really be interested in your elaboration (personal discrepancies or not), because I didn't hear anything negative about this seller so far.
So, its Friday and here come the new offers from STO:
Among them, a "Near Mint" 145.022-68
https://www.shucktheoyster.com/omega-speedmaster-professional-chronograph-145-022-68-2/
I'm far from being an expert but IMO:
Wrong bezel (undeclared by the seller, value difference 2500 USD/€)
Unacrurate repainted hands
Chrono hand seems not to reset exactely
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Fabulon
·Describes the watch as near mint. An then says i might be polished once. How can a polished watch be a mint watch. Such a description doesnt seem "good guy" like....
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OMEGuy
·So, its Friday and here come the new offers from STO:
Among them, a "Near Mint" 145.022-68
https://www.shucktheoyster.com/omega-speedmaster-professional-chronograph-145-022-68-2/
I'm far from being an expert but IMO:
Wrong bezel (undeclared by the seller, value difference 2500 USD/€)
Unacrurate repainted hands
Chrono hand seems not to reset exactely
Since you're on his new items alert list, I wonder if you bought from him?
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abrod520
·I know its a very personal view, but I don't really see any appeal in a mid-late 80s watch over a new one. The colour of tritium lumed dials may appeal, but it'll be barely noticeable, if at all in the dark. A new speedie would have a robust warranty, and no need for parts/servicing for quite a few years. No questions over polished cases/lost profiles etc etc
Oh it's actually quite noticeable on the wrist. Tritium has a warmer color and for a vintage watch lends a nice lived-in feeling. It's not for everyone though, and a new Speedmaster is still one of the better values in the watch world IMO.
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abrod520
·Dealers are dealers - they make their living by selling watches. It's always up to the buyer to educate themselves and decide whether it's a good piece or not. I don't think he's being deceptive so much as maybe a little too hyperbolic in this case; but the number of dealers who can tell the difference between a DON and DNN can probably be counted on one hand. (And those dealers likely specialize in Omega; Arthur doesn't.)
I've personally dealt with him a few times, sometimes reaching a deal and sometimes not. He's been honorable in all communications I've had with him. I too am curious about whatever that other poster's Ultraman stuff was; sounds like it wasn't firsthand experience either way though.
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Passover
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mr_yossarian
·I would really be interested in your elaboration (personal discrepancies or not), because I didn't hear anything negative about this seller so far.
Chrono hand seems not to reset exactely
just the tip of the iceberg..fun fact: what do you expect when your watchmaker charges you 150 Euros for a full "movement overhaul". As his does. I had 3 unpleasant services there before I decided not to bring watches there anymore. This is the standard for a serviced watch there I guess.
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