Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch 3861

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tommy23

·Aug 14, 2022

Hi folks! This is my first post as the owner of brand new Omega Moonwatch. I would like to rise the question if my new watch works well. When I try to wind it clockwise (as per manual) it seems to be very difficult as the resistance of the crown is great (leading to the pain of my thumb and index finger).
Is this a normal thing for the new watch like this? Is it going to change after some time?
This is my first manual watch hence the question.

 

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Duckie

·Aug 14, 2022

Welcome to the forum.
The Speedy Pro as we have come to know it, has never been particularly easy to wind.
It gets better with practice and the winding action tends to get smoother as time goes on.
The more you do, the better you get👍
Persevere😉

 

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Doc Olives

·Aug 14, 2022

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T tommy23

Hi folks! This is my first post as the owner of brand new Omega Moonwatch. I would like to rise the question if my new watch works well. When I try to wind it clockwise (as per manual) it seems to be very difficult as the resistance of the crown is great (leading to the pain of my thumb and index finger).
Is this a normal thing for the new watch like this? Is it going to change after some time?
This is my first manual watch hence the question.

@tommy23 You’ll find a good many threads on here regarding winding. Resistance on manual wind Speedies can vary, but generally from full stop, and depending on individual “technique”, you’re looking at around 50-60 turns. If you wind every morning, closer to 20-30 or so turns. As you wind, you may find increasing resistance until you hit a hard stop, and cannot wind further, in which case the watch is fully wound. As you own the watch you may find that the resistance during winding loosens up a little bit, but maybe not. As long as you are getting that good wind-until-it-really-stops, you should be in great shape. Enjoy your new watch 👍

Edited: Aug 14, 2022

 

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rob#1

·Aug 15, 2022

Also make sure you’re not wearing it when you’re winding it 👍

 

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Omega-Q

·Aug 15, 2022

People have varying experiences. I have 3 different versions of the 3861 movement. One of them is quite difficult to wind, & the others are much easier. I've heard of people sending theirs in to get the winding mechanism adjusted (coming from my OB).

 

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Evitzee

·Aug 15, 2022

Most of the variation in the resistance in the winding is due to the seals which usually wear in and lessen the resistance over time. That's my experience anyway.

 

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RonP

·Aug 15, 2022

You could ask your watchmaker to apply a bit of fomblin grease on the seals in the crown. Most likely it will be solved. this is a special, teflon like grease specifically for gaskets (modern replacement for the old silicone grease).

 

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Cenzo

·Aug 15, 2022

I wind mine forward and backwards. I know backwards does not do anything, but the motion of going back and forth gives a rhythm I find good to work with.

 

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Duckie

·Aug 15, 2022

Cenzo

I wind mine forward and backwards. I know backwards does not do anything, but the motion of going back and forth gives a rhythm I find good to work with.

I find it counter productive.
Firstly, one loses some wind on the backward rotation. There is already quite a bit of pushback evident through the mechanism where maybe an 1/8th of a turn is natural backward rotation where one can barely get much more than about 3/4 of a turn anyway.
Secondly, winding back and forth only wears the seals twice as much as winding in one direction.

With regard to the OP's issues.
Only practice/repetition can help develop a technique which will take the OP forward. It will also toughen up the winding fingers as necessary.

 

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Bizcut1

·Aug 15, 2022

Cenzo

I wind mine forward and backwards. I know backwards does not do anything, but the motion of going back and forth gives a rhythm I find good to work with.

This makes no sense at all.

 

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Lug

·Aug 16, 2022

Bizcut1

This makes no sense at all.

He’s saying he ‘rolls’ the crown between his fingers, forwards and back, in order to wind it. My AD recommended this approach which apparently puts less strain on the stem.

 

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Lug

·Aug 16, 2022

Do many others have this problem with the 3861 speedy pro? This is my one issue with an otherwise (to me) perfect watch. It’s actually painful to wind which is a big problem, considering I’m intending to wear the watch every day. I have a 50 year old Smiths watch which by comparison is a joy to wind every morning, I really enjoy the ritual. The ritual of winding the speedmaster on the other hand is not a pleasant one.

 

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hansmaulwurf

·Aug 16, 2022·Senior Snoopy Owner

Hi,

I have the same feeling from time to time with my 3861 Moonshine Speedy.

If I wind it every second Day I feel it is as easy as the other Speedys (861, 1861
and others) but if I wind it up every day I share your opinion and even get marks
on my finger... From now on I call it the 3861 Finger 😗

BR
Hans

 

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Omega-Q

·Aug 16, 2022

Lug

Do many others have this problem with the 3861 speedy pro? This is my one issue with an otherwise (to me) perfect watch. It’s actually painful to wind which is a big problem, considering I’m intending to wear the watch every day. I have a 50 year old Smiths watch which by comparison is a joy to wind every morning, I really enjoy the ritual. The ritual of winding the speedmaster on the other hand is not a pleasant one.

My Apollo 11 50th is difficult to wind. Folks kept telling me to "break it in", but I've had it since release & it is difficult every time. My OB told me that I could send it in for warranty, but I prefer to have the watch in my possession. Maybe towards the end of warranty period, I'll send it in. My Snoopy & 3861 Hesalite wind with ease...

 

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texasmade

·Aug 16, 2022

When I first got my Snoopy 50, it was really stiff to wind. I thought all 3861’s were like that but I got to wind a hesalite 3861 and noticed how much easier it was to wind. My Snoopy loosened up a little bit but it’s still pretty difficult to wind.

 

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BAJJ

·Aug 17, 2022

I have had my 3861 moonwatch hesalite for a couple of months now. I've worn it almost exclusively every day since, I wind every morning and it certainly is not painful to wind, in fact its a pleasure, light resistance and a smooth action.

 

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MHBsheep

·Aug 17, 2022

I tried winding few different 3861 movement and like others said the smoothness of the winding definitely vary

 

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Dedalus05

·Aug 17, 2022

Just to add my experience. I've a new hesalite 3861 a week or two now. Winding it is a breeze. No stiffness or other issues. A satisfying sound too.

Unrelated, did Omega stop including a Velcro strap or other extras with the 3861 Moonwatch? Mine came with the watch, box incl the handy travel case, manual and cards, but that is it.

 

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BAJJ

·Aug 17, 2022

Dedalus05

Just to add my experience. I've a new hesalite 3861 a week or two now. Winding it is a breeze. No stiffness or other issues. A satisfying sound too.

Unrelated, did Omega stop including a Velcro strap or other extras with the 3861 Moonwatch? Mine came with the watch, box incl the handy travel case, manual and cards, but that is it.

That's correct, no more goodies with the 3861

 

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gbesq

·Aug 17, 2022

Try winding a vintage Constellation with a decagonal crown and you’ll quickly realize what a pleasure it is to wind a Speedmaster.