Omega Speedmaster Broad Arrow Olympic Edition - my take, what’s yours?

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I recently picked this up and thought I would share some pics and see if anyone else on here has one. It is a model you don't see often in the flesh, and in a quick search I can't find much about it on here either so it rather fell between the cracks as some Omega models do. Hopefully I can right that wrong a little.



This is Speedmaster model 321.10.42.50.04.001, quite a mouthful I know. I think I'll stick with Broad Arrow Olympic Edition, though there are other quite different watches that also claim that title.

This was one of several Olympic tie ins that Omega released around 10-20 years ago, milking their long history of timekeeping for such sporting events. This model dates to circa 2012 and was I think launched just before the London Olympics. It's hard to be sure since I've looked hard but can't find a press release for it. My own example was sold much later than this suggesting it didn't exactly fly out of the showrooms, that and the fact I've never previously see one in the wild is also suggestive that wasn't a quick seller.

It was based on the then current Broad Arrow Speedmaster which rather than the familiar 1861 Lemania movement seen in the Moonwatch, instead uses a F Piguet derived column wheel auto movement, the 3313. This movement had teething troubles initially when first released in 2002 as calibre 3303 partly due to the constraints of being much thinner than any other mass produced integrated chronograph movement but by the time the second iteration of its later coax development came around it was widely considered by those that know to be a solid performer. This watch has the ultimate 3313C spec, I'm not certain whether this was from new, probably, or perhaps it received an upgrade along the way as the earlier A and B versions of this movement are routinely given the C spec triple layer escapement when serviced in official channels. It is running at +2s per day with little positional variation so I'm very impressed from a timekeeping perspective. This isn't my first 3313, and they have always impressed me on this score.



One thing that attracted me to it is the pure white dial which appears to be enamel in the style of the classic pocket watches of yesteryear, though I can't find a source to back up that suspicion, it might just be glossy white paint. It does however have a glowing translucent look which is quite beguiling and near impossible to catch in a pic. The numerals and logo have a paint-like 3D depth to them also. Note the chrono second has the Olympic rings as a counterweight, this may be seen by some as a little gimmicky I know, but isn't too obtrusive when viewed by eye, you have to look for it.



One interesting point is that the sapphire crystal used here seems to have a different more curved profile than the more boxy one used on the usual Sapphire Speedies inc other Broad Arrows which may explain why there is less milky ring effect than usually seen with Omega sapphire crystals. It is more like the profile of Hesalite crystals or perhaps the sapphire crystal seen on the modern 321 model.



Like with the contemporary FOIS, also a 2012 design, the hands are coordinated to match the function, blued for the chrono feature and chromed for the timekeeping. Not all love this quirk on the FOIS it's true as it is leads to asymmetry but it is valid from a functional perspective. It’s a bit less obvious here than with the FOIS though as it’s the hand finish that differs, not the shape. One final observation, the bracelet clasp text is black infilled on mine, I've not noticed that on any other example so makes me wonder why. Are there any other similar models with infilled clasp text like this?



If anyone knows more about this model or can find links to the launch info I'd be grateful to hear it.

Edit: something that I forgot to mention is these are water resistance rated to 100m which is 2-3 times higher than the Moonwatch line…
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Interesting watch, you don't see them too often. That was back when Omega was just flinging ideas around and lots of strange stuff popped out of the Omega machine. The dial is probably a cold enamel, not fired enamel.
 
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the 3313 is such a nice movement to set and adjust.
 
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I recently picked this up and thought I would share some pics and see if anyone else on here has one. It is a model you don't see often in the flesh, and in a quick search I can't find much about it on here either so it rather fell between the cracks as some Omega models do. Hopefully I can right that wrong a little.



This is model Speedmaster 321.10.42.50.04.001, quite a mouthful I know. I think I'll stick with Broad Arrow Olympic Edition, though there are other quite different watches that also claim that title.

This was one of several Olympic tie ins that Omega released around 10-20 years ago, milking their long history of timekeeping for such sporting events. This model dates to circa 2012 and was I think launched just before the London Olympics. It's hard to be sure since I've looked hard but can't find a press release for it. My own example was sold much later than this suggesting it didn't exactly fly out of the showrooms, that and the fact I've never previously see one in the wild is also suggestive that wasn't a quick seller.

It was based on the then current Broad Arrow Speedmaster which rather than the familiar 1861 Lemania movement seen in the Moonwatch, instead uses a F Piguet derived column wheel auto movement, the 3313. This movement had teething troubles initially when first released in 2002 as calibre 3303 partly due to the constraints of being much thinner than any other mass produced integrated chronograph movement but by the time the second iteration of its later coax development came around it was widely considered by those that know to be a solid performer. This watch has the ultimate 3313C spec, I'm not certain whether this was from new, probably, or perhaps it received an upgrade along the way as the earlier A and B versions of this movement are routinely given the C spec triple layer escapement when serviced in official channels. It is running at +2s per day with little positional variation so I'm very impressed from a timekeeping perspective. This isn't my first 3313, and they have always impressed me on this score.



One thing that attracted me to it is the pure white dial which appears to be enamel in the style of the classic pocket watches of yesteryear, though I can't find a source to back up that suspicion, it might just be glossy white paint. It does however have a glowing translucent look which is quite beguiling and near impossible to catch in a pic. The numerals and logo have a paint-like 3D depth to them also. Note the chrono second has the Olympic rings as a counterweight, this may be seen by some as a little gimmicky I know, but isn't too obtrusive when viewed by eye, you have to look for it.



One interesting point is that the sapphire crystal used here seems to have a different more curved profile than the more boxy one used on the usual Sapphire Speedies inc other Broad Arrows which may explain why there is less milky ring effect than usually seen with Omega sapphire crystals. It is more like the profile of Hesalite crystals or perhaps the sapphire crystal seen on the modern 321 model.



Like with the contemporary FOIS, also a 2012 design, the hands are coordinated to match the function, blued for the chrono feature and chromed for the timekeeping. Not all love this quirk on the FOIS it's true as it is leads to asymmetry but it is valid from a functional perspective. It’s a bit less obvious here than with the FOIS though as it’s the hand finish that differs, not the shape. One final observation, the bracelet clasp text is black infilled on mine, I've not noticed that on any other example so makes me wonder why. Are there any other similar models with infilled clasp text like this?



If anyone knows more about this model or can find links to the launch info I'd be grateful to hear it.
Do you know at what point in the serial numbers that the "C" version of the cal. 3313 begins? This works sure got its share of bad press, but I have also heard that if one is patient and finds a "C" that it is quite a sweet movement. Was there also a "D", like the 2500? And does the beat rate change from the "A" to "C"?
 
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The C spec was the final and still current 3313 version. All retain the 28,800 beat rate, unlike other recent Omega co-ax stuff where 25,200 is more normally seen. I believe the B spec was a measure to improve the random stopping that effected original A spec examples but the jump from B to C was more fundamental with a new 3 layer escapement replacing the earlier 2 layer part. It was a similar change to how the 2500 went from C to D spec. Unlike there though the change can be retro fitted to any 3313, with the 2500 you top out at C spec with an earlier model, though that has never been a problem in my experience of owning many 2500Cs which have all been accurate and reliable. The 3313B never gave me any issues either it should be noted.

Regarding the date of the change from B to C with the 3313. From my own observations I suspect this occurred between 2011-2012. I have two Broad Arrow Speedies, the one above on a 78.53m serial which came to me with C spec already in place, and one on 78.33m which originally had B spec and papers dated 2011 (and presumably made earlier). This is not definitive since the Olympic one may have been officially serviced before it came to me (and gained the C triple layer escapement) but I suspect this is the right timeframe. I note this corresponds pretty well with when the triple layer 2500D was first seen, possibly not a coincidence.

Just a thought, but obv white dial Speedies are flavour of the month at present, note you can pick up one of these for not much more than a third of the price of a new White Dial Pro so it's a real value proposition and they have a spec sheet that in some ways outshines the new model.

I'll chuck in another more recent wrist pic. Now sporting a dark blue Omega croc deployant strap:

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Hi Padders

I do appreciate all the work and experience that the info you provided must have entailed. I am sure anyone else having even a casual interest in either of these often misunderstood calibers does as well. Obviously if one is on the hunt for a model containing one of these, it is preferable to know the years and serial numbers that correspond to the 3 level escapement evolution. I had already asked and received the serial change numbers pertaining to the production shift from C to D for the 2500, but I did not surmise that it occurred in a similar timeframe as the 3313. That is very helpful. The 3313 is somewhat more interesting to me in that it has the column wheel.

As far as the White Speedy phenomenon...it sure has perked up interest in the brand lately. Your observations about the relative bargain of the Olympic is most astute. I saw one in the upper 2K range on C24. Personally, I almost never buy the least expensive option, but maybe the one for 3K is a real steal. My interest in this reference is more about the Porcelain (?) looking dial and movement, than it is about the colorway. I will have to add some more quarters to my short-change jar real quick though.

Thank you again for taking the time to break down the transitions dates and serials. Nice contribution to the forum!

jimmy
 
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I'll chuck in another more recent wrist pic. Now sporting a dark blue Omega croc deployant strap:

Looks nicer with the blue strap, gives it a bit more vintage feel and highlights the dial.
 
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May I ask a related question? Do you think this watch would accept a Michael Schumacher Legend dial from the 3301 movment?
 
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May I ask a related question? Do you think this watch would accept a Michael Schumacher Legend dial from the 3301 movment?

Def not the 3313 is not related to the 3301 in any way other then they both tell time.
 
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Def not the 3313 is not related to the 3301 in any way other then they both tell time.
They are related, you might be thinking of the 3330 which is a 7750 development. I must say 3301 is not a movement number that was previously known to me either!

In fact the 3301 is the non display back (ie less ornate) version of the 3303, which was the non coax predecessor to the coax 3313 used in the watch I show above. All are ultimately based on the F Piguet 1285. I suspect but don't know for sure that yes the dials may well be interchangeable since the fundamental form factors should be the same.
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They are related, you might be thinking of the 3330 which is a 7750 development. I must say 3301 is not a movement number that was previously known to me either!

In fact the 3301 is the non display back (ie less ornate) version of the 3303, which was the non coax predecessor to the coax 3313 used the watch I show above. All are ultimately based on the F Piguet 1285. I suspect but don't know for sure that yes the dials may well be interchangeable since the fundamental form factors should be the same.
I was asking because the 3301 is supposedly the movement used in the 42mm Speedmaster Michael Schumacher Legend Series watches
 
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I was asking because the 3301 is supposedly the movement used in the 42mm Speedmaster Michael Schumacher Legend Series watches
I know. Those too are part of the Broad Arrow family of Speedmasters. I've seen your other posts discussing those. I must say I don't think your plan to use a 1861 dial with a Broad Arrow movement and case will work.
 
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I know. Those too are part of the Broad Arrow family of Speedmasters. I've seen your other posts discussing those. I must say I don't think your plan to use a 1861 dial with a Broad Arrow movement and case will work.
Thank you for going with me on this. Why don't you think it will work? The movements (1861, 3301 and 3313) all are almost identical on diameter and height and the subdial placement also seems to be very close. I don't need to worry about the crown and pushers since the movement will stay in it's original case (because I want the 100m WR). I just want to switch the dial and I understand that I would have to sacrifice the dial feet and use dial pads instead.
My apologies to the OP for somewhat hijacking his thread (but this might make we want to buy a 321.10.42.50.04.001 😀
 
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Thank you for going with me on this. Why don't you think it will work? The movements (1861, 3301 and 3313) all are almost identical on diameter and height and the subdial placement also seems to be very close. I don't need to worry about the crown and pushers since the movement will stay in it's original case (because I want the 100m WR). I just want to switch the dial and I understand that I would have to sacrifice the dial feet and use dial pads instead.
My apologies to the OP for somewhat hijacking his thread (but this might make we want to buy a 321.10.42.50.04.001 😀
Very close and almost identical basically means it wont work. Don't assume the sub dial posts for instance are in the same places. My quick research suggests they are not. The 1861 was ultimately developed from a 1940s Lemania design, the 3301 from a 1980s F Piguet design. They had very little in common until Omega got hold of them.

I am the OP and I accept your apology but lets continue any further chats on this in the right place which is your thread on the subject!
 
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Very close and almost identical basically means it wont work. Don't assume the sub dial posts for instance are in the same places. The 1861 was ultimately developed from a 1940s Lemania design, the 3301 from a 1980s F Piguet design. They had very little in common until Omega got hold of them.

I am the OP and I accept your apology but lets continue any further chats on this in the right place which is your thread on the subject!
Ok, I get it. What can I say, I am the eternal optimist 😀 Thanks again. Over and out
 
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They are related, you might be thinking of the 3330 which is a 7750 development. I must say 3301 is not a movement number that was previously known to me either!

In fact the 3301 is the non display back (ie less ornate) version of the 3303, which was the non coax predecessor to the coax 3313 used the watch I show above. All are ultimately based on the F Piguet 1285. I suspect but don't know for sure that yes the dials may well be interchangeable since the fundamental form factors should be the same.

Sry the 3313 and the movement in the speedy reduced are not related.
 
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There’s also a similar 2004 era Olympic version based on the 3513, that you occasionally see in the wild. I don’t know why, but I find the 12-6-9 more interesting. The only problem is that it tends to command quite a high price, given that it’s a very modest change to its non-limited sibling…

 
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There’s also a similar 2004 era Olympic version based on the 3513, that you occasionally see in the wild. I don’t know why, but I find the 12-6-9 more interesting. The only problem is that it tends to command quite a high price, given that it’s a very modest change to its non-limited sibling…

I really like the font on the dial's numbers. I almost always go for Arabic font over Roman.