Omega Speedmaster 3861 Dial Variant.

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Hi all,

I recently purchased a new 3861 Speedmaster Pro from my local AD and I noticed that the lume shots I took didn't match every other press photo that I had seen. My dial does not have the 12 oclock dots painted with super luminova as you can see from my photos. Thus at night only the central stick glows at 12. I assume that the lume on these dials are applied by machine and so extrapolating from that assumption, there must be a batch of dials with this variant? Anybody else have the same dial variant? What should we call this dial type?

 
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Lousy picture, taken with my tablet, my Sapphire Speedy purchased 3/30/21
Shows the dots fully lumed. Interesting to see if perhaps the Hesalite dials are different. Incidentally, the applied logo is only apparent when the chronograph is running, its nicely done but the chrono hand covers it completely.
 
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Interesting to see if perhaps the Hesalite dials are different.
I don't think so, because it's impossible to read the time in the dark, without a special marker on 12.

If we look the second picture posted, can we tell what time is it?
maybe 10:08, maybe 02:28, maybe 07:53, and so on...
 
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Lousy picture, taken with my tablet, my Sapphire Speedy purchased 3/30/21
Shows the dots fully lumed. Interesting to see if perhaps the Hesalite dials are different. Incidentally, the applied logo is only apparent when the chronograph is running, its nicely done but the chrono hand covers it completely.
Yep, Every other 3861 I have seen or had the opportunity to handle in person has the lume dots painted. Mine seems to be either unique or part of a small set of dials that weren't.
 
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A visit to AD will resolve your issue, I believe. Please take the properly lumed dial. I'd have done that.
 
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In your close-up, the dots are definitely painted white while the 12:00 marker is clearly lumed. I can only surmise a mistake during the addition of the lume, perhaps it can be corrected during your 1st service, certainly not worth tearing the watch apart to correct.
 
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I don't think I will get this dial changed out. It's unique and original to the watch. I think it's quite cool!
 
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Hi all,

I recently purchased a new 3861 Speedmaster Pro from my local AD and I noticed that the lume shots I took didn't match every other press photo that I had seen. My dial does not have the 12 oclock dots painted with super luminova as you can see from my photos. Thus at night only the central stick glows at 12. I assume that the lume on these dials are applied by machine and so extrapolating from that assumption, there must be a batch of dials with this variant? Anybody else have the same dial variant? What should we call this dial type?

I don't think it is a variant or something Omega did purposefully. It looks like a flawed dial that slipped through Omega QC. If I were you, I would have your AD either replace the watch or work with Omega service to replace the dial.
 
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I don't think it is a variant or something Omega did purposefully. It looks like a flawed dial that slipped through Omega QC. If I were you, I would have your AD either replace the watch or work with Omega service to replace the dial.
Kind of agree, I'd go for replacement, wouldn't like a brand new watch disassembled to correct an obvious factory defect. Certainly takes the shine off a new purchase when it has to be sent back.
 
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Kind of agree, I'd go for replacement, wouldn't like a brand new watch disassembled to correct an obvious factory defect. Certainly takes the shine off a new purchase when it has to be sent back.
Agree to disagree, I think it's unique and will add something interesting to a mass produced watch. Plus, factory defects on dials can be sought after in the future in some cases.
 
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Agree to disagree, I think it's unique and will add something interesting to a mass produced watch. Plus, factory defects on dials can be sought after in the future in some cases.

You make a good point!
 
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The only "problem" the OP might have is, if ever he decides to sell the watch.

Personally, I would opt to get it corrected.
 
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Agree to disagree, I think it's unique and will add something interesting to a mass produced watch. Plus, factory defects on dials can be sought after in the future in some cases.

Good on you, if you like the watch as it is, keep it! Although I think some defects might be considered more desirable / investment worthy than others...
 
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The only "problem" the OP might have is, if ever he decides to sell the watch.

Personally, I would opt to get it corrected.

I would probably try to get the watch replaced, being a tad OCD about my watches, it would be a distraction, knowing it's not correct. It's only new and perfect once, a defect would lessen my enjoyment. For $7150, I think that's a reasonable expectation. An OB would probably replace it without question, an AD might, but would probably prefer to send it for "correction". Knowing how Omega doesn't want "Franken" watches out there with their name on them, I'd like to think they'd prefer to make it right.
 
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Good on you, if you like the watch as it is, keep it! Although I think some defects might be considered more desirable / investment worthy than others...
That's a really good point. I read recently that Speedies with a "220" bezel are considered collectable because of the printing error. So what makes one defect more collectable than others? Love to hear the opinion of all on this forum.