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Garp
·I seek the help of the professional folk here with my watch. I recently purchased this whilst in Bangkok as I liked the look of it and, I’ll be honest, it was a steal.
The first things that folk on the forum have commented on is the lack of stepped dial. Being a 69ST it should have one (my 71ST does) although the dial has far more patina than that of my 71, so I perhaps wrongly assumed it may be older ?
It does have T SWISS T so I can safely assume it is not a service dial.
The hands seem to be commensurate with the age of the watch and the lume has decayed as one would expect.
The crystal still carries the etched logo.
The next issue is the lack of a DON bezel although Moonwatch Only does indicate that 69ST watches left the factory with several different bezels, so I think I can assume that mine having a “Dot close to 70” bezel and a “narrow C” in Tachymetre means it can feasibly be the original.
Looking at the caseback both from the outside and within confirms the 145 022 69ST issue. Try he movement is a Caliber 861 and is stamped this.
The serial number is 2960**** and puts the assembly and dispatch sometime in 1970.
The crown seems correct.
Strap is a 1171 with 633 end-links.
So, with a bit of reading, it seems the 69ST has so many variables as well as assembly and delivery dates, some pre-moon case backs still being delivered as late as 1973.
Could ( and I stress, COULD) this be a older movement ASSEMBLED with a later dial and delivered l
So, my question to the collection of very educated folk on this forum is this:
I see this watch as being “honest” in its appearance. All the signs (to me anyway) seem to indicate that it left the factory like this. If it is a frankenwatch Speedy then I’m surprised it all looks like it “fits” so well.
If the stepped dial WAS replaced for a later dial, can anyone indicate a later (dome) dial that has aged in this manner ? My 71ST has not discoloured at all.
I’m no expert but I am a collector and a fan of Omega Speedmasters, so please don’t shoot me down here.
This is just a supposition that this watch MAY have left Omega this way and with the varied history of the 69ST I’m thinking this could be possible.
Yes, it doesn’t have a DON bezel or a stepped dial but I’m just putting this out there …….
I shall now brace for the “hailstorm” of replies ….
The first things that folk on the forum have commented on is the lack of stepped dial. Being a 69ST it should have one (my 71ST does) although the dial has far more patina than that of my 71, so I perhaps wrongly assumed it may be older ?
It does have T SWISS T so I can safely assume it is not a service dial.
The hands seem to be commensurate with the age of the watch and the lume has decayed as one would expect.
The crystal still carries the etched logo.
The next issue is the lack of a DON bezel although Moonwatch Only does indicate that 69ST watches left the factory with several different bezels, so I think I can assume that mine having a “Dot close to 70” bezel and a “narrow C” in Tachymetre means it can feasibly be the original.
Looking at the caseback both from the outside and within confirms the 145 022 69ST issue. Try he movement is a Caliber 861 and is stamped this.
The serial number is 2960**** and puts the assembly and dispatch sometime in 1970.
The crown seems correct.
Strap is a 1171 with 633 end-links.
So, with a bit of reading, it seems the 69ST has so many variables as well as assembly and delivery dates, some pre-moon case backs still being delivered as late as 1973.
Could ( and I stress, COULD) this be a older movement ASSEMBLED with a later dial and delivered l
So, my question to the collection of very educated folk on this forum is this:
I see this watch as being “honest” in its appearance. All the signs (to me anyway) seem to indicate that it left the factory like this. If it is a frankenwatch Speedy then I’m surprised it all looks like it “fits” so well.
If the stepped dial WAS replaced for a later dial, can anyone indicate a later (dome) dial that has aged in this manner ? My 71ST has not discoloured at all.
I’m no expert but I am a collector and a fan of Omega Speedmasters, so please don’t shoot me down here.
This is just a supposition that this watch MAY have left Omega this way and with the varied history of the 69ST I’m thinking this could be possible.
Yes, it doesn’t have a DON bezel or a stepped dial but I’m just putting this out there …….
I shall now brace for the “hailstorm” of replies ….