Omega Speedmaster 145.022-69 with an Amazing Dial on an auction last Saturday!!

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Hi Forum People!

This weekend was a blast for us Speedy Lovers,
there where two auctions held on Saturday that I followed.
The first one had a total of six Speedy 145.022:s.
and the second one had a lot of different Speedy references.

The one that I focused on was a 145.022-69.
The pictures on the website showed a nice watch with an amazing dial, that had lovey shades of brown.

So I had to ask for more pictures, and also to get more info…

The watch is a one family owned watch and never serviced.
You can see on the gaskets that they have almost melted away.

Serial nr 29.60 mil places it in the batch that might turn brown.
I have another 145.022-69 that also is from the 29.60 mil batch, but only with a very light brown tint,
this one here was in a different league!

So condition:

Dial - Amazing/Excellent
Lume plots - very good, perfect color, and nothing missing
Hands - very good
Bezel - also Amazing/Excellent, its very hard to find any faults here, there are 2-3 small marks..

The case - sharp and nice unpolished lines and edges, with the brushing visible.
There were maybe a few to many scratches, but nothing disturbing.

Sadly there were a few major dents that made me downgrade the watch.
They are quite large and could be a bit disturbing?

The caseback - also very nice,
but the previous owner has etched som numbers/date or something which is of course a bit boring….

So case and caseback good?

Pushers and crown are original to the watch.

The movement and the watch is in need for a full service and cleaning.

Had it not had the things with the case and caseback, I would have called the watch excellent.
But then there was the Brown Dial!!

And as a bonus, it had a 1039 bracelet.

With this in my mind, I made up my Master Plan and waited for the auction to start.

And it started with a Mayhem!
I counted in a total of 42 bids (not counting the pre-bidding), and we where 6 different bidders going at it.

I finally managed to be ”the top dog” for a little while,
but suddenly a new/fresh bidder came in and took the lead…

I did honestly have a few more bids to use,
but since a fresh one came in, I thought that he/she would have had more to go for,
and with that in mind (and also hoping that the bidder was a Forum member),
trying to be a gentleman - I stopped here!

If the case and caseback didnt have the dents/marks and etching I would have gone Full Throttle,
because the dial was REALLY REALLY amazing.

The watch landed at 9700 € / 10400 $ including the premium!
I think that the buyer won an Amazing Watch, with a very decent price.
And I do hope that a Forum member won it, and will show the watch here??


Enjoy the pictures, and please do comment??


 
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That’s a nice one. The dings don’t seem to stand out as much since they more on the sides and not the edges or lug tips. Hope someone here got it.
 
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Here are some more pictures showing the condition of the case.....
These and the other dings made me downgrade the case.

 
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Guys and Gals....

Nobody found the watch (or my post) interesting??
🙁

I would love some feedback!
 
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The case dings and dents are actually a plus for me - I like a nice honest worn timepiece. The case overall looks honest and if I had to guess, I would say it's unpolished. Movement looks nice and clean, no signs of water/moisture ingress and the screw heads appear to be in good condition, which reinforces the "never serviced" claim.

The brown hue on the dial is very pleasant. I have no concerns about whether the browning is authentic given it falls within a known serial range for this characteristic. My concern would be with the lume plots, or rather, the lack thereof. Based on the photos, it appears that all the lume has been removed. That would beg the question, why? A red flag for me personally. I would also say that the hands are not original. The DON bezel is in exceptional condition, which is something you don't see much these days.

Interested to hear what other members have to say.
 
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Guys and Gals....

Nobody found the watch (or my post) interesting??
🙁

I would love some feedback!

Nice post and I always enjoy reading your similar auction results/analysis posts.
I think you may be guilty of overthinking the potential bidding of others! I’m sure I’ve done the same in the past tbh.
Really liked the dial on this one, especially the difference in the colour of the sub-dials.
 
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The case dings and dents are actually a plus for me - I like a nice honest worn timepiece. The case overall looks honest and if I had to guess, I would say it's unpolished. Movement looks nice and clean, no signs of water/moisture ingress and the screw heads appear to be in good condition, which reinforces the "never serviced" claim.

The brown hue on the dial is very pleasant. I have no concerns about whether the browning is authentic given it falls within a known serial range for this characteristic. My concern would be with the lume plots, or rather, the lack thereof. Based on the photos, it appears that all the lume has been removed. That would beg the question, why? A red flag for me personally. I would also say that the hands are not original. The DON bezel is in exceptional condition, which is something you don't see much these days.

Interested to hear what other members have to say.
According to the auction house (and we always trust them....), the watch had never been opened.
So I do think that the hand are original.
And zooming in on the lume, you can see that they are still there, I have seen a few (and I have one myself) with "thinner" lume.
And the dial...I haven't seen this lovely brown (chocolate) on an auction for a loooong time!

 
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Nice post and I always enjoy reading your similar auction results/analysis posts.
I think you may be guilty of overthinking the potential bidding of others! I’m sure I’ve done the same in the past tbh.
Really liked the dial on this one, especially the difference in the colour of the sub-dials.
Thanks Mate!

I might analyze these auctions too much....😗
But going in to 5 figure 69´s, I have to follow my plan, and since the winner came in at the final end,
he/she must have had more to go for?
I wrote before that I had a few more bids, hopefully the winner is a Forum member and appreciates that I "stood down"?
I have done some crazy bidding before, and it showed later on that the underbidder of that watch was a friend of mine.
We can laugh about it now, but that was costly for me....


And the dial....Amazing!!!!
 
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A nice honest watch, but is the lume missing from the dial or is it just the photos? Attractive dial lume is one of the most important factors for me. Otherwise lovely.
 
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A nice honest watch, but is the lume missing from the dial or is it just the photos? Attractive dial lume is one of the most important factors for me. Otherwise lovely.
Yepp - the watch was/is lovely, except for the dings and marks (and etching on the caseback)!

And the lume is complete (had a chat with the curator about this),
but maybe not the most sexiest lume...?
I did a post about lume colors before, and a Forum member called it "typical pale green lume".
Attaching a picture of my 69 (with the same serial batch), with a similar color.

 
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Well, if the lume is like yours then it would be a very nice example, but it’s very hard to see in the photos.
 
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@hansaboy
I enjoy these posts so please continue. As a newcomer and, hopefully, future Speedy owner, it is helpful to see these reviews.
One, it provides some visibility of watches at auction that I would never see.
Two, your breakdown helps educate me on things to look for when evaluating a watch.
Three, the resulting conversations show different individual preference views. This also helps form evaluation criteria.
Four, and probably the most important, it's just fun to look at the watches.
Cheers
 
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According to the auction house (and we always trust them....), the watch had never been opened.
So I do think that the hand are original.
And zooming in on the lume, you can see that they are still there, I have seen a few (and I have one myself) with "thinner" lume.
And the dial...I haven't seen this lovely brown (chocolate) on an auction for a loooong time!

It's very difficult to see any lume in the photos provided by the auction house. They didn't do themselves any favours providing over exposed photos. We can only judge and draw conclusions based on the data provided. With those photos, I would have personally passed on this particular watch. Perhaps I would have come to a different conclusion had I see this piece in person. As a general rule, with any vintage watch purchase, I always assume the worst case and work backward based on the data/information provided. And my offering price is always reflective of the risk I'm taking.

And I agree, I love brown dials Speedmasters! Please keep sharing posts like this - they are great!