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Omega speedmaster 105 012 65

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Dear members!
Good afternoon.
I might have found a watch that I like. I have checked it based on speedmaster 101 and it seems to be ok. Now iam definitly not an expert so I might have missed something.
I have contacted the seller. He doesnt have the Omega Abstract ( Not good).
The watch according to him have been lightly polished ( not convinced but ok).
At this stage, my big concern is the bracelet. According to the seller the bracelet doesn't have a reference number....
According to Speedmaster 101, the price is good.
Can you give me your inputs on the watch and more precisely on this ' bracelet' who look like legit but way too clean for my taste.

Once again thank you.

Best regards

Marc antoine
 
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I think we will need better photos in order to help you.
 
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What is that dot above the screw on the balance cock? A hole?

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I think we will need better photos in order to help you.
Hello going to ask the seller if he has better photos.
 
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Bummer. Look like it is a hole.
Sorry to ask but is it really bad? Do you think it affect the mechanism? Why on earth is there a hole there?
 
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I'm not sure it is a hole, as said above we need better photos. But if it is one, even if had no effect on the functioning of the watch, it would be an indication that the movement had suffered some abuse...
You definitely need better pictures, high resolution and not over exposed ones from all sides, inner case back etc. Movement aside, how else can you assess the condition of the dial/lume?
 
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I'm not sure it is a hole, as said above we need better photos. But if it is one, even if had no effect on the functioning of the watch, it would be an indication that the movement had suffered some abuse...
You definitely need better pictures, high resolution and not over exposed ones from all sides, inner case back etc. Movement aside, how else can you assess the condition of the dial/lume?

Dear sir,

You are definitely right. I have asked the seller for high resolution pictures. Will see if he provide them.
 
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Beside of the hole it is a nice 105.012-65 with the rare close T dial.

Cheers
 
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ortope ortope
Beside of the hole it is a nice 105.012-65 with the rare close T dial.

Cheers
Dear sir,

Thank you for your message . Can I ask you what do you mean by 'the rare close T dial' ? ( iam new in the speedmaster vintage field. So much interesting things to learn!)

Best regards

Marc antoine martin
 
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The bracelet looks ok from the limited photos we have. That should be a secondary concern anyway. Don’t let it distract you too much. More important are the case, bezel, movement and crucially the condition, colour, lume and overall attractiveness of the dial. That cannot be determined from the pictures you have.
 
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The bracelet looks ok from the limited photos we have. That should be a secondary concern anyway. Don’t let it distract you too much. More important are the case, bezel, movement and crucially the condition, colour, lume and overall attractiveness of the dial. That cannot be determined from the pictures you have.

Dear sir,

I have requested from the seller better pictures of the dial. Regarding the bracelet , this is where you can tell iam a totally newbie. I got distracted by it.

I wish you a great evening

Mam
 
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I'd be more that a little concerned that the regulator lever is cranked so far over, not usually a good sign for movement health.
 
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I'd be more that a little concerned that the regulator lever is cranked so far over, not usually a good sign for movement health.
Dear sir,
If I understand correctly, chances are the movement health is not good. If it is the case, do you think that Omega will be able fix the issues or the cost of repairing it are too high to justify them?

Best regards
 
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More / better pics from the OP watch, listing is here:

https://www.colognewatch.de/products/omega-speedmaster-professional-moonwatch-stahl-105012-65

Dial, bezel, pushers, crown seem to be original, not shure about chrono and hour hand. 16 end links

Even with this better pictures it is still very hard to assess the dial lume.

Case is a bit too polished IMO





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Passover Passover
More / better pics from the OP watch, listing is here:

https://www.colognewatch.de/products/omega-speedmaster-professional-moonwatch-stahl-105012-65

Dial, bezel, pushers, crown seem to be original, not shure about chrono and hour hand. 16 end links

Even with this better pictures it is still very hard to assess the dial lume.

Case is a bit too polished IMO





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Dear good morning!!!

How are you?

From what I have read on speedmaster 101, the watche seems to be in original state .Based on speedmaster 101 description and this forum , the price asked is in the range according to the state of the watch. I have asked for better picture especially the movement who has a hole on one part ( apparently it might be a good sign). My second issue was the bracelet who seems original but without reference numbers.
Like you mentioned, the watch is polished ( but still not a deal breaker in my case).

I wish you a great day!

Best regards

Marc antoine
 
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Dear all!
How are you?
I have another question regarding this watch.
When I check on the speedmaster 101 chart the reference number for this model ( 65) should be between:
  • 105.012-65 2282 5xxx - 2452 7xxx
On the picture that the seller sended me the number on the mechanism is: 2453....

According to Speedmaster 101, this watch should be from 66? But then the on the case back it is written 105 012 65.

Iam confused...
 
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M Mam
When I check on the speedmaster 101 chart the reference number for this model ( 65) should be between:
  • 105.012-65 2282 5xxx - 2452 7xxx
On the picture that the seller sended me the number on the mechanism is: 2453....

According to Speedmaster 101, this watch should be from 66? But then the on the case back it is written 105 012 65.

Iam confused...
The last batch of 105.012-65 with serial range 24.53#.### were produced during the first quarter of 1967.
(24.537.039 with an April 18 1967 production date is the highest serial I have in my archives so far).
I have also seen several Brown dials in that final batch so that lines up as well.
M Mam
lightly polished
The watch is correct, with a killer dial and perfect lume, but way too over polished in my opinion 🙁
I would have loved to have seen it in its "As found" condition before whoever violated it got their hands on it... :whipped:
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The last batch of 105.012-65 with serial range 24.53#.### were produced during the first quarter of 1967.
(24.537.039 with an April 18 1967 production date is the highest serial I have in my archives so far).
I have also seen several Brown dials in that final batch so that lines up as well.
The watch is correct, with a killer dial and perfect lume, but way too over polished in my opinion 🙁
I would have loved to see it in its "As found" condition before whoever violated it got their hands on it... :whipped:

Dear sur,

Good morning / Good evening.

Thank you for your explanation and the clarification. The fact that the watche was 'lightly ' polished and the absence of the extract of Omega archive raised serious questions.
Once again thank you for taking the time to give me the explanation .

Best regards

Marc antoine martin
 
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