Omega Speedmaster 105.012-64 HF: Advice request !

Posts
3
Likes
0
Hello,

I have stumbled upon an Omega Speedmaster REF. 105.012-64 on a 10506 bracelet. I went down the rabbit hole, and I am pretty convinced the watch is fully "original":
  • DON bezel
  • Correct "T" and the omega logo
  • Short pusher & 24-teeth crown
  • Double beveled case back with no mention of the moon
  • Omega stamped glass.

The watch state is "okay", the glass is heavily scratched, the bezel has also substantial damage, but the dial and hands look fine (minor oil leak on dial and stains on hands). The Tritium paint is not perfect, but still decent. The case does not feature big scratches. The bracelet has all its links; the springs for 2 or 3 links are busted, but there are no major scratches.

The watch is running true from what I can tell; it hasn't been serviced for at least 5 years (most probably 10+). The chronograph's second hand seems to be a bit loose, its zero position is shifted, and the pusher to bring the chronograph hands to zero is very difficult to press.

It is the first time I have found myself interested in a watch, and I am now considering my options. Should I keep it or should I sell it?
For me, it boils down to the value of the watch. Having a 5k USD watch is imaginable, but a 10K USD seems a bit difficult to justify given my lifestyle (not the most careful guy on earth, trying not to be too materialistic). Having said that, I have surprised myself these past couple of weeks getting excited reading about the stories of the watch 馃榾 I have brought the watch to a local watchmaker in Geneva, asking for a quotation for a service/restoration.

The value of the watch seems to be heavily dependent on the condition, which brings me to my request for advice/opinion:
  • According to the photo, in your opinion, is the watch in the 5K or 10K bracket ? The picture shows the damages in detail, it doesn't look as bad without magnification.
  • I understood that having the watch fully "original" is key to keeping its value, the only parts that I wonder if it should be changed is the glass. Should I ask for it to be slightly polished, or should they change it (I would ask to keep the original in any case) ?
  • Assuming I would like to sell it, do you think doing an initial service/repair by a certified watchmaker who provides a warranty for the watch for 12 month makes sense ? I like the idea of simplifying the watch.
  • Do you have any suggestions on the best way to sell the watch ?
  • In the scenario where I keep it, would removing some of the damaged link of the bracelet and compensating the length by shifting the attachment point in the closing buckle be okay, or would I commit an irremediable sin whose curse will follow my lineage until the end of time?

For now, the option I lean towards would be restoring it ( keeping it as original as possible, no polishing, no aggressive dial or hand cleaning), insuring it, wearing it while trying my luck with an ebay listing for it at a price i cannot really justify refusing.

Thanks for taking the read my post, do let me know your opinion !

Cheers,

Beno卯t

 
Posts
1,772
Likes
5,563
1964?

could be the first speedmaster to have printed "professional" on the dial.

your link is 16, with 1506 stretchable bracelet.
Edited:
 
Posts
3
Likes
0

1964?

could be the first speedmaster to have printed "professional" on the dial.

your link is 16, with 1506 stretchable bracelet.
The serial number is in the 2208.XXXX so came out of factory in 1965 馃榾
 
Posts
3,328
Likes
7,329
I assume you bought the watch?

If you are selling do nothing to watch, don鈥檛 replace anything don鈥檛 have it serviced as you won鈥檛 recoup cost and most buyers prefer to have serviced by their own watchmaker.
Also would not run/wear watch if selling.

If keeping it then movement service good idea with maintenance of vintage parts to keep value and appeal.

Nice looking watch

I would grade it between good and very good on speedmaster101.com chart.

https://speedmaster101.com/price-chart-2/
 
Posts
1,692
Likes
3,446
Nice watch !
I like to wear my watches, even the old ones - with care but not just on Sunday`s - and as a standard have them serviced within weeks after i pick them up. It deals with any worry i could have about preserving or "not damaging" them and i dont have to think twice if i decide to sell one as i know it is a watch in good condition for the next owner.

So first and formost ; Join as a Tier1 supporter or make a Donation via the button below left because you are now here to stay 馃檪, second ; decide if you want to wear this beauty y/n , which gives you an answer to the third part ; to service or not to service.

Note to Mod ; Maybe OF should also introduce an "Appraisal" button if asked for such an elaborate assessment ?
 
Posts
32
Likes
39
Nice watch, and nice example of a very classic model- arguably close to as historic as the 65'. I would honestly put it closer to the 10k side of things all depending on market- but currently.
 
Posts
3
Likes
0
Thanks a lot for your replies!

I have thought about it these past days and I will be keeping it for now 馃榾

I will have it serviced. I am pondering about the glass, should I:
  • Change it ( keeping the original apart)
  • Polish it
  • Keep it as is ?
 
Posts
3,328
Likes
7,329
Thanks a lot for your replies!

I have thought about it these past days and I will be keeping it for now 馃榾

I will have it serviced. I am pondering about the glass, should I:
  • Change it ( keeping the original apart)
  • Polish it
  • Keep it as is ?
I would try polish glass first with polywatch. The results can be very good. If there are cracks watchmaker can advise you to replace it.
Good luck glad to hear you鈥檒l keep it please post photos after service!