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  1. TIMSTAR Jan 21, 2016

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    Hi there,
    I have been offered a a Speedmaster SMP 1974 with a 145.022-69 ST "straight writing" case back,
    movement nr. 328......, 861 caliber, full set. papers from 1974
    Extract of the archives says production date was January 1974.
    The BOOK MWO states that these Straight Writings were produced until 1973.
    My question may seem a bit academic but is mine still a real Straight Writing?
    thanks to you omegurus...
     
  2. Davidt Jan 21, 2016

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    Are you saying its a 74 because the paperwork says it was sold in 74, yet it has a straight writing case back?

    If that's the only reason, then it will probay just have sat around for a while before being sold.

    Pics always help but sounds fine.
     
  3. TIMSTAR Jan 21, 2016

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    Hey David,
    Thanks for your reply.
    extract of the archives says DATE OF PRODUCTION was january 1974.
     
  4. TIMSTAR Jan 21, 2016

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    so I am not sure if this one can be regarded as a straight writing....
    may be there was also a transitional period?
    any comments? thanks
     
  5. Prash15 Jan 21, 2016

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    Pictures please!!
     
  6. Davidt Jan 21, 2016

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    If there's an extract it should also state the reference no. What does it say, -69, -71, -74?

    Need pics to help any further.
     
  7. TIMSTAR Jan 21, 2016

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    coming soon
     
  8. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jan 21, 2016

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    I don't think extracts specify the sub reference. I had one one a 105.003-65, but the extract just says 105.003 delivered in '65.
     
  9. TIMSTAR Jan 21, 2016

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    one more.
    thanks guy for your appreciated advice and comments image-8.jpg
     
  11. Davidt Jan 21, 2016

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    Oh yeah!?!

    How the hell have I missed that?! I've got two upstairs and never noticed that!

    Slightly strange that's it was produced so late, but Im pretty sure 32mil is fine for a '69.
     
  12. TIMSTAR Jan 21, 2016

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    thanks david,
    but this might also be a replacement case back on a later 861...
     
  13. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jan 21, 2016

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    I don't have MWO handy. Sp101 says:

    Serial Range: 2842 0xxx – 3162 9xxx

    Anyone able to fact check with The Book? So close...

    Edit:

    Actually, for straight writing,

    31xx xxx – 32xx xxx

    http://speedmaster101.com/145-022-straight-writing/

    Looks like you're good to go!
     
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  14. TIMSTAR Jan 21, 2016

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    sounds great.
    this forum is a huge aid :)
     
  15. Davidt Jan 21, 2016

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    What's thenext digit of the movement no? I've been flicking through MWO and checked this out. The serial for these is listed as going up to 32,83xxxx, with deliveries overlapping the -71 into 1973.
    This could be one of the very last ones...
     
  16. TIMSTAR Jan 21, 2016

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    it is 32,84...
     
  17. Prash15 Jan 21, 2016

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    Mine is a 3100 5xxx!
     
  18. TIMSTAR Jan 21, 2016

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    pretty old.... ;)
     
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