Omega seamaster update !

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Hi All ,

I recently purchased a vintage Omega and wanted to give an update as you helped me making my decision.

To start the watch cost me £500, i purchased the watch through a ebay store from japan and was told the the watch had been serviced and keeping time + 17 seconds which from my two days seems to be about +15 is so not that different .

The overall condition was in the seller opinion to be good to average, it is definitely not perfect but in the flesh it looks really nice nothing overly used looking.

I paid import tax which is was expecting but on review on the sale page it was listed but was an oversight.

I have 2 issues with the watch first being that the BoR bracelet is slightly to small and will need 2 extra links the other being the crown feel very small and difficult to wind but when winding has a crispy click feeling very crunchy and feels very nice.

The dial in person is hardly notice able but does have some patina and a silvery lemony hue with a shimmery effect which against the slight blue flame hand and silver batons with a diamond cut look literally looks something quality and beauty.

The overal look has a diamond cut look and the case is not overly polished and has a geometric feel with nice round bezel.

The calendar is gold with the same geometric shape and fits in perfectly.

I have seem a video on YouTube with the same exact watch but in 36mm and was said the this is a japanese market Omega watch .

The back of the watch and overall case has crisp lines and not shiny more satin look there is no logo on the crystal so im guessing this is a replacement.

As a bonus the watch can in a Omega box but not sure if this is original or from another watch.

The watch in my eyes is beautiful but not a collectors condition but perfect for everyday use.

The watch fits in the box perfectly.
 
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Lovely watch @OZZIEs why don’t you order an extract online to see if it’s from the Japanese market?
 
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I love these 166.003/165.003 Seamasters. This reference was what got me into vintage watch collecting and I've been eating them up ever since. Yours looks very nice, and with a wonderful, light patina!
 
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I believe your crown is incorrect and too small- which would explain the feeling you have winding it. Links for these bracelets are still available as far as I know (most if not all the 5-row BOR’s have interchangeable links) and they commonly come up on the used market. You may want to reach out to @No Mercy and see if he has any links lying around.
 
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Nice looking watch and bracelet and the price seems quite good, particularly if you factor in both the BOR bracelet and the recent service. I see no problem with a fifty year old watch being fitted with a new generic crystal. Well done.

I’m not sure I agree with @JwRosenthal about the crown, although I may have misunderstood his post. He posts a lovely collection of old Seamasters and is far more knowledgeable about them than I am but these 166.003/165.003 cases have semi-hidden/recessed crowns and a larger crown might not slot into the recess.

As we agreed on another current thread, you may find that a 3.5/4.00 crown winder is the solution to any difficulty you have in winding up this automatic watch.
 
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but these 166.003/165.003 cases have semi-hidden/recessed crowns and a larger crown might not slot into the recess
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Lovely watch @OZZIEs why don’t you order an extract online to see if it’s from the Japanese market?
Not sure what you mean by extract online ?
 
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I believe your crown is incorrect and too small- which would explain the feeling you have winding it. Links for these bracelets are still available as far as I know (most if not all the 5-row BOR’s have interchangeable links) and they commonly come up on the used market. You may want to reach out to @No Mercy and see if he has any links lying around.

Thank you i have managed to find 7 links online off another vintage watch with some negotiating ive acquired it for £50.

Do you happen to know how to change the links ?

I cant find a tutorial anywhere i can see that the clasp end has 2 links with holes i guess this may be a spring
 
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Nice looking watch and bracelet and the price seems quite good, particularly if you factor in both the BOR bracelet and the recent service. I see no problem with a fifty year old watch being fitted with a new generic crystal. Well done.

I’m not sure I agree with @JwRosenthal about the crown, although I may have misunderstood his post. He posts a lovely collection of old Seamasters and is far more knowledgeable about them than I am but these 166.003/165.003 cases have semi-hidden/recessed crowns and a larger crown might not slot into the recess.

As we agreed on another current thread, you may find that a 3.5/4.00 crown winder is the solution to any difficulty you have in winding up this automatic watch.

The crown is small but seems to be working fine i think you are right a winder will be needed !

The one thing I've seem online is moisture getting in from the crown its its the wrong size or type do you think this maybe an issue ?

I will not be swimming with the watch on more for office use a dress watch.
 
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Not sure what you mean by extract online ?

You can order an extract from the Omega Museum for 120 CHF. It includes the reference, calibre, model, material, dial, date of production year and country it was delivered to (oh and sometimes the bracelet type).
 
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The crown is small but seems to be working fine i think you are right a winder will be needed !

The one thing I've seem online is moisture getting in from the crown its its the wrong size or type do you think this maybe an issue ?

I will not be swimming with the watch on more for office use a dress watch.

I think that your crown looks okay In your photo and @Shabbaz has posted a nice illustrative photo to clarify.

You obviously appreciate that it’s a very well preserved 60 year old watch but not only would I not swim in it, I wouldn’t wash up or bathe the kids or do any yard chores whilst wearing it either.
 
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That crown looks too large to me. I have a 165.003 with original crown and it doesn't protrude as far as this one. They are extremely difficult to wind and when I put mine on I usually set it about 30 secs fast, shake it on my wrist a few times and adjust it once it's had time to wind itself.
I love these 166.003/165.003 Seamasters.

Absolutely. IMO this was the finest dress Seamaster case design with the finest non-chronometer movement. For me it remains their high point.
 
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I think that your crown looks okay In your photo and @Shabbaz has posted a nice illustrative photo to clarify.

You obviously appreciate that it’s a very well preserved 60 year old watch but not only would I not swim in it, I wouldn’t wash up or bathe the kids or do any yard chores whilst wearing it either.
The Mrs has been eyeballing the watch but this will be mine for while before its comendeared Lol

How often would it need a service out of interest ?
 
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That crown looks too large to me. I have a 165.003 with original crown and it doesn't protrude as far as this one. They are extremely difficult to wind and when I put mine on I usually set it about 30 secs fast, shake it on my wrist a few times and adjust it once it's had time to wind itself.


Absolutely. IMO this was the finest dress Seamaster case design with the finest non-chronometer movement. For me it remains their high point.
The case back is 166.003 not sure if that makes a difference but if the crown was any smaller i would not be able to wind or set this .

Out of interest does the crown pull out twice or once and do i need to screw it back in ?

Not sure on the operation of the crown as im used to tissot
The Mrs has been eyeballing the watch but this will be mine for while before its comendeared Lol

How often would it need a service out of interest ?

modern watches.
 
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I thought the crown was supposed to sit more flush to the case and actually be slightly larger in diameter like @Shabbaz ‘s watch, but as I don’t own one of these I am only going by what I’ve seen. Tucked crowns are elegant and sleek- but suck. Crown winder would be he way to go.
https://www.esslinger.com/watch-crown-winder-tool/

Not sure I was understanding about the links you purchased- the 5 row bracelets and 7 row are not compatible.
 
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The case back is 166.003 not sure if that makes a difference but if the crown was any smaller i would not be able to wind or set this .

Out of interest does the crown pull out twice or once and do i need to screw it back in ?

Not sure on the operation of the crown as im used to tissot

The crown just pulls out once and the time shouldn't be difficult to set in that position. It's not a screw-down crown, you just press it back into position. As I mentioned, it is very difficult to wind the watch manually, which is a drawback of this particular design. But I can live with it.
 
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Yes the crown is also stuck it won't pull out to come off

The links I've brought are exactly same the original on the watch with great difficulty i have manged to put it on.
 
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Yes the crown is also stuck it won't pull out to come off

The links I've brought are exactly same the original on the watch with great difficulty i have manged to put it on.
Yeah, they have those awful little spring bars- best to fit them after a drink or two- but before three or four.