Omega Seamaster Heritage 300 bezel

Posts
13
Likes
2
Does anyone find that the bezel on the new Omega Seamaster Heritage 300 moves too easily. I find I set mine to 12 o’clock and sometimes I look down and it’s moved a couple notches from being brushed or making contact to something. How does it compare to say a Rolex Submariner bezel. I have yet to compare the two. Anyone with a Rolex Submariner experience the same thing.
 
Posts
6,334
Likes
30,970
The bezel on the Seamaster Trilogy also moves easily, don't think a Sub has that problem.
 
Posts
9,993
Likes
56,770
I have a black dialed 300 Heritage that I wear frequently and I have not experienced any problem with the bezel moving on its own.
 
Posts
4,013
Likes
8,681
Summer blue heritage here and previously owned a black heritage. Really haven't had this happen unless I'm intentionally wiping down the bezel in the "wrong" direction (that is, if I am rubbing it in the same direction it is supposed to move).
Edited:
 
Posts
1,900
Likes
2,897
Don’t think I’ve ever had a dive watch (from Omega, Rolex, Hamilton, Tag, Ball, Nite, etc—I’ve had a zillion) with this issue. If you’re really not touching it and it’s moving, then it’s probably worth addressing at the next service. As I’m guessing you know, the whole point of a dive bezel is that it only moves in one direction (so worst case you err on the side of shortening your dive—no risk), and generally only moves at all when you want it to. A bezel that moves without the wearer’s intention—in either direction—is IMO a ‘fatal’ flaw.

The newest model Submariner has the best bezel action I’ve ever experienced—possibly the best there is. Kinda ruins you for other dive watches. And I’m far from being a Rolex fanboy. But I can’t imagine this happening with a modern Sub. Omega divers (like most other brands) have a kind of clicky bezel action: each of the 120 stops has a crisp pointedness to it. Extremely functional, but generally loud and very… mechanical feeling, if that makes sense. The same has been true of all the other divers I’ve owned except that modern Sub. The Sub has a buttery smoothness—I don’t know how else to characterize it—where each stop is still distinct but it’s just so quiet and subtle. And there’s no backplay whatsoever.

Some Seiko divers have a great smooth action too, but they’re usually not aligned very well, and they do have backplay.
Edited:
 
Posts
13
Likes
2
Mine moves in only one direction as intended. Just to me I’ve noticed on a few occasions it’s moved a couple spots. Maybe I bumped it without realizing it. It does move very easy with no resistance and makes the pronounced clicking. I just assumed there would be a little more resistance so it wouldn’t move if accidentally brushed or bumped.
 
Posts
2,777
Likes
3,693
I also have not had this problem with mine. I just tried bumping it in multiple places with my finger and couldn’t get it to move in the manner you indicate. You must be hitting it pretty good, or there’s an issue with the click spring.
 
Posts
186
Likes
415
Does anyone find that the bezel on the new Omega Seamaster Heritage 300 moves too easily. I find I set mine to 12 o’clock and sometimes I look down and it’s moved a couple notches from being brushed or making contact to something. How does it compare to say a Rolex Submariner bezel. I have yet to compare the two. Anyone with a Rolex Submariner experience the same thing.
No issue with the black I had, it was very direct- I would say near perfect feel; although I watched a Mad Watch Collector review a little while ago with the same issue. Terrible reviewing style but he certainly touched on the sloppy bezel action.
 
Posts
420
Likes
490
I've had the same with my previous generation 300. It's a thick watch and when putting on coats, backpacks or diving gear I often caught just enough resistance to move the bezel a click or two.

Other than the thickness the other reason for this to happen more than with other watches is that the bezel protrudes past the case.
Edited:
 
Posts
4,013
Likes
8,681
I've had the same with my previous generation 300. It's a thick watch and when putting on coats, backpacks or diving gear I often caught just enough resistance to move the bezel a click or two.

I never had this happen with my first gen, but I could see how it could. Especially under a shirt cuff or tighter jacket cuff.

The second generation has a bezel that sits probably 1.5 to 1.7mm lower which makes a huge difference.
 
Posts
82
Likes
51
Does anyone find that the bezel on the new Omega Seamaster Heritage 300 moves too easily. I find I set mine to 12 o’clock and sometimes I look down and it’s moved a couple notches from being brushed or making contact to something. How does it compare to say a Rolex Submariner bezel. I have yet to compare the two. Anyone with a Rolex Submariner experience the same thing.
I owned the previous version with the Cal.8400 movement and the Liquidmetal bezel. It had the best bezel action and feel of any dive watch I have ever owned including a Submariner, Planet Ocean (3 different versions across two generations), Seamaster 300 1957 Trilogy or Seamaster Diver (3 versions across three generations), Seiko's and Longines. I was very excited to see the new Seamaster 300 but it was a massive disappointment because the bezel is rubbish. I tried on 11 black dial watches and 8 blue dial watches over an 18 month period in two boutiques and several ADs. Every single one had a really poor bezel action, rickety, too much play and too insubstantial in feeling. In several cases the bezel was not aligned correctly and in a few the bezel did not sit straight so was in danger of being popped off. Given the large number of watches tried, the various locations and the time period involved this is not an isolated early production issue it is staggeringly poor quality control and/or design by Omega. So the short answer to your question is, yes, the bezel on these newer Seamaster 300 “Heritage” watches is crap. I did not buy one. Going for a Planet Ocean GMT or Planet Ocean Orange instead.
 
Posts
4,013
Likes
8,681
I owned the previous version with the Cal.8400 movement and the Liquidmetal bezel. It had the best bezel action and feel of any dive watch I have ever owned including a Submariner, Planet Ocean (3 different versions across two generations), Seamaster 300 1957 Trilogy or Seamaster Diver (3 versions across three generations), Seiko's and Longines. I was very excited to see the new Seamaster 300 but it was a massive disappointment because the bezel is rubbish. I tried on 11 black dial watches and 8 blue dial watches over an 18 month period in two boutiques and several ADs. Every single one had a really poor bezel action, rickety, too much play and too insubstantial in feeling. In several cases the bezel was not aligned correctly and in a few the bezel did not sit straight so was in danger of being popped off. Given the large number of watches tried, the various locations and the time period involved this is not an isolated early production issue it is staggeringly poor quality control and/or design by Omega. So the short answer to your question is, yes, the bezel on these newer Seamaster 300 “Heritage” watches is crap. I did not buy one. Going for a Planet Ocean GMT or Planet Ocean Orange instead.


Interesting. After I picked up my 2nd gen summer blue, I owned it with my first generation in Black *concurrently for 6 months. I found the bezel action on the first generation to be absolutely satisfactory if not down right very good, and have found the bezel action on my second generation to be slightly more tactile and precise.

Not trying to "negate" your experience, but clearly we haven't had the same. Perhaps it is just that they save the best bezels for the summer blue, but I can't imagine why they would do that...

EDIT: it just occurred to me that the liquid metal bezel is present on the summer blue, a large difference between the summer blue and the rest of the 2nd gen models.
Edited:
 
Posts
3,644
Likes
8,423
I have a relatively new Sub and it had a factory service not long ago, so I assume the bezel is “to spec”, and it often rotates a bit on its own. I assume I’m bumping it, etc,
 
Posts
82
Likes
51
Interesting. After I picked up my 2nd gen summer blue, I owned it with my first generation in Black *concurrently for 6 months. I found the bezel action on the first generation to be absolutely satisfactory if not down right very good, and have found the bezel action on my second generation to be slightly more tactile and precise.

Not trying to "negate" your experience, but clearly we haven't had the same. Perhaps it is just that they save the best bezels for the summer blue, but I can't imagine why they would do that...

EDIT: it just occurred to me that the liquid metal bezel is present on the summer blue, a large difference between the summer blue and the rest of the 2nd gen models.
The Summer Blue 300 does not have a Liquidmetal bezel. It has a ceramic bezel with an enamel diving scale. Ceramic is not Liquidmetal. You should do a bit of research on materials being used on the different watches then you not put out misleading information. I own the Seamaster 300 Summer Blue as of a month ago and while the bezel action is far better than the aluminium bezel of the standard model it is still not a patch on the old Seamaster 300 Cal.8400, the current Diver or the last generation Planet Ocean. It is however far better than the new Planet Ocean which is hilariously poor.
 
Posts
4,013
Likes
8,681
The Summer Blue 300 does not have a Liquidmetal bezel. It has a ceramic bezel with an enamel diving scale. Ceramic is not Liquidmetal. You should do a bit of research on materials being used on the different watches then you not put out misleading information. I own the Seamaster 300 Summer Blue as of a month ago and while the bezel action is far better than the aluminium bezel of the standard model it is still not a patch on the old Seamaster 300 Cal.8400, the current Diver or the last generation Planet Ocean. It is however far better than the new Planet Ocean which is hilariously poor.

You're responding to a 2 year old post- and I've since become aware that the summer blue is a grand-feu enamel specially bonded to the ceramic bezel. I appreciate the informational correction that it's not liquidmetal.

Let me return the favor of correcting misinformation: The summer blue heritage bezel is just as good as the prior SM300 8400, if not better. I owned both concurrently. The summer blue heritage bezel is just as good, perhaps better, than the current SMP. I own both. Both feel great but the SM300 bezel is just a touch easier to grip because of the coin edge, although I don't struggle with turning my SMP bezel- even when wet.

Can't speak to the current planet ocean, haven't played with the bezel, but I can't say I've heard that complaint.
Edited:
 
Posts
82
Likes
51
You're responding to a 2 year old post- and I've since become aware that the summer blue is a grand-feu enamel specially bonded to the ceramic bezel. I appreciate the informational correction that it's not liquidmetal.

Let me return the favor of correcting misinformation: The summer blue heritage bezel is just as good as the prior SM300 8400, if not better. I owned both concurrently. The summer blue heritage bezel is just as good, perhaps better, than the current SMP. I own both. Both feel great but the SM300 bezel is just a touch easier to grip because of the coin edge, although I don't struggle with turning my SMP bezel- even when wet.

Can't speak to the current planet ocean, haven't played with the bezel, but I can't say I've heard that complaint.
Let me return the favour as well with a lesson in semantics. My comment on your misinformation was about an objective one, namely, the lack of Liquidmetal on the Seamaster 300 Summer Blue. It does not have a Liquidmetal bezel so your assertion is objectively incorrect and you failed to correct it despite finding out you were wrong it would seem. The bezel action feel I commented on in my original post is a subjective matter. I am not impressed with the Seamaster 300 with an aluminium bezel and I cited my experience in trying to find one that I felt was acceptable. I still think the bezel action on the 300 is still rubbish, I tried a black dial one before finally getting the Summer Blue. I also found the ceramic bezel on the bronze gold is also far better than the aluminium bezel. See, subjective. Your original reply acknowledges the subjective nature of the issue. Now because you have been called out for getting a fact (objective) wrong you decided to make an ad hominem attack. Not very sensible or nice really. So, to summarise, you got a fact wrong, you were corrected and did not like it. Finally, the post might be old but that is irrelevant, your assertion of a Liquidmetal bezel on the Summer Blue 300 was wrong. It does not matter if you made that assertion in 2024 or 2021 it was still wrong.
 
Posts
7,271
Likes
23,561
Let me return the favour as well with a lesson in semantics. My comment on your misinformation was about an objective one, namely, the lack of Liquidmetal on the Seamaster 300 Summer Blue. It does not have a Liquidmetal bezel so your assertion is objectively incorrect and you failed to correct it despite finding out you were wrong it would seem. The bezel action feel I commented on in my original post is a subjective matter. I am not impressed with the Seamaster 300 with an aluminium bezel and I cited my experience in trying to find one that I felt was acceptable. I still think the bezel action on the 300 is still rubbish, I tried a black dial one before finally getting the Summer Blue. I also found the ceramic bezel on the bronze gold is also far better than the aluminium bezel. See, subjective. Your original reply acknowledges the subjective nature of the issue. Now because you have been called out for getting a fact (objective) wrong you decided to make an ad hominem attack. Not very sensible or nice really. So, to summarise, you got a fact wrong, you were corrected and did not like it. Finally, the post might be old but that is irrelevant, your assertion of a Liquidmetal bezel on the Summer Blue 300 was wrong. It does not matter if you made that assertion in 2024 or 2021 it was still wrong.

Hmmm…perhaps a tad aggressive with the tone?

Changing topics: how many of you have kept your Heritage 300. And if you’ve gotten rid of them, what was the main reason?
 
Posts
2,777
Likes
3,693
Hmmm…perhaps a tad aggressive with the tone?

Changing topics: how many of you have kept your Heritage 300. And if you’ve gotten rid of them, what was the main reason?
I still have mine and have not intentions of getting rid of it. I don’t wear it as much as I used to because I tend to wear my Speedmaster more often now, but I do wear it a few times a week (and especially if I know it is going to be raining).
 
Posts
4,013
Likes
8,681
Let me return the favour as well with a lesson in semantics... The bezel action feel I commented on in my original post is a subjective matter.

There is a point at which a shared "subjective" is shared as if fact.

Given the large number of watches tried, the various locations and the time period involved this is not an isolated early production issue it is staggeringly poor quality control and/or design by Omega. So the short answer to your question is, yes, the bezel on these newer Seamaster 300 “Heritage” watches is crap

... which is exactly what you did do. We don't share our experience as subjective by stating it like you did. And two years later in your post here, pretty clear you hold this as more than just subjective opinion. There's really no reason to hide behind that old and tired internet favorite.

To be clear: this isn't a case where I got upset by being corrected and then went on an ad hominem attack (which, this doesn't even fit the definition)- this is a case where I was trying to initially counter your objectively backed "subjective" opinion gently and kindly and patiently and in a non-confrontational manner.

Since then, I've seen how you've interacted with others (here's an example: https://omegaforums.net/threads/the-great-aqua-terra-debate.94624/post-2461087), and you seem to have a pointlessly abrasive streak.. I doubt you'll change, but you hopefully can stop being a hypocrite?

Anyway

Hmmm…perhaps a tad aggressive with the tone?

Changing topics: how many of you have kept your Heritage 300. And if you’ve gotten rid of them, what was the main reason?

I still have mine with no intention to sell. Still keeps great time, still fits amazingly well, still has a fantastic dial. I currently wear my "seaweed" green SMP a lot more, but that's no real indication of what I'll do in the future. I wore the summer blue almost every single day for two years.
Edited: