Omega Seamaster 300 Ref. 165.024 - Looking for opinions on o

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Hi everyone,


I'm currently researching this Omega Seamaster 300 Ref. 165.024 and would really appreciate the opinions of experienced collectors.


From what I can see, the watch appears to have:


  • Cal. 552 movement
  • Lyre lug case
  • Sword hands
  • Matte black dial
  • Acrylic bezel insert

However, I'd like to get your thoughts on a few points:


  1. Does the dial look original or could it be a redial/service dial?
  2. Are the hands period-correct for a 165.024?
  3. Does the bezel appear to be original, a later Omega service replacement, or aftermarket?
  4. Is there anything else that stands out as incorrect or replaced?

I'm still learning about vintage Seamaster 300s, so I'd really appreciate any insight or details that you notice.

Unfortunately, I only have these photos at the moment. If there are any additional photos that would help (movement, inside caseback, serial numbers, bezel close-ups, etc.), please let me know and I'll try to obtain them.
Thank you!

 
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Could you explain what makes you think it's fake? I'd really appreciate learning what details stand out to you.
 
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just search the forum, at least two of these posts appear a week. people are getting tired 😉
 
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Crenellations on the bezel are far too pronounced, and the indexes on the plastic insert are imitation beige instead of white. The numbers on the insert also lack depth/dimensionality. The originals weren’t just printed, but moulded. The crown is the wrong profile and has the wrong number of teeth. In general, the machining quality is quite poor, and this is especially apparent on the caseback but can likely be seen on the midcase between the lugs and at the interface where the bezel mates to the midcase.

I won’t speak too much on the dial as there are far more qualified members that know about the year-to-year variations. However, from what I understand, the seconds hand should be painted white, and vintage SM300s (especially big triangle dials) almost never have that level of strong, almost orange lume. It’s usually far more pale and custard like.

Unfortunately, a lot of these fakes have proliferated through the Japanese market, but at least these tells are present on pretty much all of them, and easy to identify at a glance for anyone who’s done some cursory research.
 
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It’s fake. I don’t like pointing out the issues as one wonders whether it helps counterfeiters improve.
 
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Off topic, but finally someone who uploads sharp photos.. At least that is REAL good.