Omega ref. 2846 18c, cal.501

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Hi Gents,

posting to clear doubts.
Omega's website says that ref.2846 was gold cap on stainless steel.

Ref. 2848 has a different movement and small seconds.


Was ref 2846 made in stainless without gold cap and with a black dial?
Obv. asking because have been offered to buy one and would rather double check with a broader audience, to me it seems all is fine...ask is 906EUR, seems a tad to high...?
 
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2846 and 2848 came is several case materials, including steel.

We can’t help you on value without knowing more about the watch at hand. Share photos?
 
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The database usually only lists one example of a given model. In this case it is the KO variant. The database is not exclusive. Many (most?) vintage models were available in a choice case metals. I myself have 2846 models in both solid steel and solid gold.

As you say in your text, models 2846 and 2848 are quite different, not one watch. It just happens that they share a caseback so you are better referring to one or the other.
 
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I'd get more pictures of that dial if I were you. Although it looks original it looks to have corrosion bubbling through the paint and lacquer. I have one exactly the same and it has an unattractive grey bubbling which cannot be helped.

Yours may not be too bad, but more pictures from slightly different angles in natural light will give you a lot more info.
 
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IMO the scripts look thicker than normal and positions between them (OMEGA and AUTOMATIC) feel off.

 
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IMO the scripts look thicker than normal and positions between them (OMEGA and AUTOMATIC) feel off.

The 2846 was made for about 6 years and scripts vary particularly in the coathanger vs curved S of Seamaster. The OP example printing is a little thick it's true but I wonder if that is specific to the gilt print on black versions. See mine with curved S below. Looks pretty similar I think you will agree in terms of style and spacing, other perhaps than the line thickness. My money is on bubbling original black dial rather than recent redial.

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Looks pretty similar I think you will agree in terms of style and spacing, other perhaps than the line thickness.
Agreed 😀
 
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I found a handful when looking that seem to have similar line-thickness for the black/gilt dials, and I see this one is basically identical to OPs, just in better shape (or at least, a much better photo). Found it here: https://wannabuyawatch.com/product/...atic-ref-2846-black-original-dial-circa-1956/

Any with 'thinner' "Omega Automatic" with a similar dial either stated plainly, or were otherwise obviously repaints. So I think the dial on OPs is correct. Case looks like it has a little bit of work done, to the point that at least one of the lugs is a little awkwardly shaped. Dial itself is pretty 'fair' to 'poor' condition IMO. Movement has seen a less-attentive watchmaker at least once (see scratches + wrong case clamp screw).

Searching ebay sold listings, you can get much nicer variants of this for ~$750-$800 USD, so $900 EUR is pretty high for this.

IMO, given condition/etc, this is a ~$500USD watch, in need of a $300 service. For that, I'd suggest finding one in nicer shape.
 
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thanks for the responses, overall seems it is overpriced. Was thinki maybe the dial isn't that bad but you effectively made me realize I should keep on looking.

For what it's worth - adding more photos

 
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For what it's worth - adding more photos

this one looks much better. It is an original dial. But the case is not so good and the crown is wrong. Consider it must get a proper service, then the price is a bit high.
 
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this one looks much better. It is an original dial. But the case is not so good and the crown is wrong. Consider it must get a proper service, then the price is a bit high.
Yeah, agreed. The pictures there show the dial isn't as bad as I had thought. Case isn't great though, so I think my $500 estimate is a little low, but not by too much. Maybe $600-$650, but still needs a $300 service, which means you can do WAY better buying one in good shape with good timegrapher results.

OP: Consider checking out/watching this thread: https://omegaforums.net/threads/rec...-watches-only-on-ebay-not-for-inquiries.1790/

Folks often post good deals on ebay of really nice watches, so I suggest just watching it until you find one you like, and pounce! Guys like @dsio only seem to post REALLY good watches.
 
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It won't be easy finding a sharp cased steel SM 2846 with an excellent condition black gilt dial not needing a service for €1K. I'd say you'd need more like €1.3-1.5K for that.

As for this watch I think it's only in OK shape so yeah, €500-€550 maybe
 
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It won't be easy finding a sharp cased steel SM 2846 with an excellent condition black gilt dial not needing a service for €1K. I'd say you'd need more like €1.3-1.5K for that.

As for this watch I think it's only in OK shape so yeah, €500-€550 maybe

Ah, sure. Though it didn't seem to me that OP was attached to a steel SM2846, and just wanted 'attractive vintage Omega at a reasonable'. At that point, there are PLENTY of really great Vintage Omegas at ~$900, and if you are OK with gold-capped/white dial of the 2846, there are plenty at $700.

Unless I read OP's intent wrong and he was attached to the 2846.
 
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Ah, sure. Though it didn't seem to me that OP was attached to a steel SM2846, and just wanted 'attractive vintage Omega at a reasonable'. At that point, there are PLENTY of really great Vintage Omegas at ~$900, and if you are OK with gold-capped/white dial of the 2846, there are plenty at $700.

Unless I read OP's intent wrong and he was attached to the 2846.
Not necessarily 2846, but defo black dial fat lugs or doglegs, more towards steel than goldcap.
 
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Not necessarily 2846, but defo black dial fat lugs or doglegs, more towards steel than goldcap.
Ah, I was going to say, if you were ok with a lighter dial, this is a stone-cold-stunner: https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-jumbo-38mm-cal-265.184740/

For Private-for-sale here has some actually pretty awesome options, though perhaps not exactly what you want. A few in the 'sub $1k' price range on the 1st page that I find similar vibe/awesome. No real black dials, but still stuff to swoon after.

Great fat legs, but white dial (though a super attractive one): https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...-tone-dial-with-railroad-minute-track.182964/

Thinner lugs, but also a beautiful watch with a unique/attractive dial: https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-131-018-geneve-technical-dial-red-crosshair.184429/

Cushion case, but this cosmic is just a beauty, I couldn't help but include it, plus its a pretty solid deal depending on the cost of the bracelet: https://omegaforums.net/threads/exceptional-omega-seamaster-cosmic-135-016-original-box.182073/

This one is just... a beautiful dial.: https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...0102-with-rare-sunburst-burgundy-dial.184238/
 
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Ah, I was going to say, if you were ok with a lighter dial, this is a stone-cold-stunner: https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-jumbo-38mm-cal-265.184740/

For Private-for-sale here has some actually pretty awesome options, though perhaps not exactly what you want. A few in the 'sub $1k' price range on the 1st page that I find similar vibe/awesome. No real black dials, but still stuff to swoon after.

Great fat legs, but white dial (though a super attractive one): https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...-tone-dial-with-railroad-minute-track.182964/

Thinner lugs, but also a beautiful watch with a unique/attractive dial: https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-131-018-geneve-technical-dial-red-crosshair.184429/

Cushion case, but this cosmic is just a beauty, I couldn't help but include it, plus its a pretty solid deal depending on the cost of the bracelet: https://omegaforums.net/threads/exceptional-omega-seamaster-cosmic-135-016-original-box.182073/

This one is just... a beautiful dial.: https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-genève-date-ref-136-0102-with-rare-sunburst-burgundy-dial.184238/
Amazing watches, you defo gave me food for thought
 
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Amazing watches, you defo gave me food for thought
Excellent... Buy one/all of those before I have too much to drink and decide "one more watch couldn't hurt!"