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Just received this 2292 today after waiting for some time for it to arrive from Great Britain.

I do love the watch but wanted to get the opinion of those with a bit more experience in identifying these WWII watches.

I knew the second hand was missing the tail prior to the purchase and realize how hard that is going to be to find a replacement. The logo seems a bit small but I did find a very similar model in the "Concise Guide to Military Timepieces 1880 -1990" (attached). I guess the most disappointing part was how worn/polished the case back is. Can barely see the HS^8 and cannot make out the stamped numbers below at all.

I do not think it is a redial (could be wrong) but not sure if it is MOD replacement, original... Any thoughts would be very helpful.
 
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Movement photo's?
Do you think the perimeter staining is tobacco or water ingress?

I'm not thinking redial but clumsy cleaning/service like they took Rodico or lemon juice to remove the staining.
So hard to tell from these pictures.

Personally, honest age doesn't bother me that much, I see it every day in the mirror, it can be quite charming!

Too bad about the polish, so many like the "shiny" look.

I can sort-of make out some caseback numbers, "763" in the center?

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I do love the watch

So do I.....but the museums won't come-a-callin'.

Let's see the guts and go from there!
 
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Movement photo's?
Do you think the perimeter staining is tobacco or water ingress?

I'm not thinking redial but clumsy cleaning/service like they took Rodico or lemon juice to remove the staining.
So hard to tell from these pictures.

Personally, honest age doesn't bother me that much, I see it every day in the mirror, it can be quite charming!

Too bad about the polish, so many like the "shiny" look.

I can sort-of make out some caseback numbers, "763" in the center?



So do I.....but the museums won't come-a-callin'.

Let's see the guts and go from there!

Really appreciate you taking a look and providing some feedback. I think you may be right about the numbers on the back. Maybe 7631? I'm good with that lol

Like I said I do still love it but didn't realize the back case was so gone.

Luckily I'm working with a guy in the UK to get an all original 6B/159. Lugs not modified at all! Super excited about that one. Can't wait to have it in hand!

Here's a couple extra pics, not sure they are much better but I put it under magnification and better light.
 
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Much better!
I don't want to spar outside of my weight class, so let's wait for the experts to join us.
We have some wonderful friends that favor military history but they are all over the globe in all time zones.
Sit back and enjoy!
 
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Is the middle case polished alloy ? If yes, the long lugs were damaged as quite normal with these, snapped off and drilled. If the middle case is steel, it is an outright fake, fitted with the correct back. Both dials are not correct. Ziggy's book was written a long time ago. Ziggy's pics. shows a repainted dial with the small slanted early logo and the numerals inside the minute track. Not a MoD repaint. Private repaint. The MoD modifications came 1956 with the recasing of that model here. Give it back. Not worth the price. And do yourself a favour and post pics of the next one, before you buy and ship. Kind regards. Achim
 
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What do you mean by lugs not modified at all? It should be a UK2292 so should have spring bars. Dial is wrong as stated. It should be alloy cased
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I think it it a service dial. It´s not marked "SWISS MADE" as common, and the logo is very small. Besides that it it´s genuine but in terrible, polished destroyed condition.
 
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Not sure. In my book , a service dial is a dial provided by the watch manufacturer to replace an original dial. This font is not Omega. And omega, like other Swiss watch companies, had big problems to get the watches to the UK in the first place....let alone to provide later spare parts. This is rather private re paint after the War. they were re cased in 1956 by the MoD anyway. white dials kept, bad dials repainted black, to fit in with the other black dialed military watch manufacturers. And they were re cased and reprinted in the UK. Kind regards. Achum
 
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Not sure. In my book , a service dial is a dial provided by the watch manufacturer to replace an original dial. This font is not Omega. And omega, like other Swiss watch companies, had big problems to get the watches to the UK in the first place....let alone to provide later spare parts. This is rather private re paint after the War. they were re cased in 1956 by the MoD anyway. white dials kept, bad dials repainted black, to fit in with the other black dialed military watch manufacturers. And they were re cased and reprinted in the UK. Kind regards. Achum

I am not sure either, though the font is similar to the one on the picture to the right, belonging to one om my 8 days OMEGA clocks.
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The Omega font is different and any re-dials done by Omega would use the current and correct font of the day. The style of the numbers is completely different and it just doesn't look right.I think it's a fair bet that the dial has been re-done privately. Military watches are designed to be legible and simplicity is key - the chapter ring on yours does not look too legible to me
 
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Is the middle case polished alloy ? If yes, the long lugs were damaged as quite normal with these, snapped off and drilled. If the middle case is steel, it is an outright fake, fitted with the correct back. Both dials are not correct. Ziggy's book was written a long time ago. Ziggy's pics. shows a repainted dial with the small slanted early logo and the numerals inside the minute track. Not a MoD repaint. Private repaint. The MoD modifications came 1956 with the recasing of that model here. Give it back. Not worth the price. And do yourself a favour and post pics of the next one, before you buy and ship. Kind regards. Achim

Hi Achim, I am not 100% sure about this but I have a vague memory that the Omega 2292 alloy cased 6B/159's had the long, fragile lugs that are often seen snapped and the HS8 2292 case was sometimes seen in a shorter lug version, I had one, it was quite a worn case so I was never sure. Or maybe they were just very skilfully shortened and redrilled.
I agree it looks like a private redial (did the MOD redial these apart from the '56 recase phase?).
Old pic of mine.

 
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not re dialed before 1956. and then only a few and the rest in black. your lugs are reshaped. and your bezel must be stainless like the back, not alloy, as you show. kind regards. achim
 
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Not quite sure that I understand the stainless steel bezel, are you saying that my (ex) watch is in the wrong case and the HS8 should be in a 3 part case with a stainless steel bezel?
 
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Middle alloy case and stainless steel bezel and back, yes.kind regards. Achim
 
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Look, HS 8 is just a different military destination for the same watch. Look it up on Google. Easy to find. Kind regards. Achim
 
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Thanks Achim, what I am tentatively suggesting is that there is more than one style of case for the 2292 cased HS8, you can find them if you google them. Here is another from the hinterweb very similar to the one I had, lug shape, length and alloy bezel, issue number also close, mine was 4727. The watch posted by Obstando earlier in the thread looks similar too. Cheers. Mark
 
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Apologies to the OP for hijacking the thread. I shall stop now.
 
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