Hello there,
What do you think about the Genevas from 1970s? like this one below ref. 136.0049 cal 613. Is this reliable movement and should the condition below be considered as acceptable?

Some signs of wear and watchmaker polishing mop, but the dial looks great and pristine - was it redialed or should be considered original?

I don’t like the the movement look - are the small spots on the bottom near the screws signs of bad craftsman working with dial installation and deinstallation?

Please let me know what do you think.

Thank you in advance.

 

The Calibre 613 is a great reliable Movement like all 55x 56x and 60x. Dial is in good shape, case was repolished. Movement got water in, that's the reason for those spots. It's not a really collectible Omega, so you shouldn't spend to much on it. As a daily wearer it would be nice, but I would calculate the costs of a service in.

 

Very reliable movement and this reference was one of the last with it installed shortly before 10xx became the standard. First photo isn't enough to asess condition, overedited and not frontal.

 

These 1970s pieces are not as universally loved as earlier Omega models, but they are still of interest to a certain group of collectors. If you appreciate the style, there's no reason not to buy it, but the price should be significantly lower than the more classic case styles of the 1960s. This particular piece is very much an entry level collectible Omega IMO.

 

I’m a great fan of Omega Geneve. The first photo (and my first OG) is a 613 calibre. Very accurate and great power reserve and the quickset date change is easy to operate. The one drawback for me is that it, like it’s non-date counterpart, the 601, is a manual watch.



As I’ve got used to wearing automatic watches, I now prefer the Omega Geneve automatic watches from the 60s. They use the same movements to most of the automatic Seamaster range, but for a distinctly smaller price.

So my advice is to look at the automatic Omega Geneves. The 565 with a date window and the 552 without. The price difference between the 613 and the automatics is not likely to be significant.

Good luck

 

Looks like a redial IMO

 

The dials fine but the case is too soft. The case is one of the main features on these references and it should be nice and sharp.

These aren't rare or even particularly desirable so if you want one, I'd certainly recommend being patient to get one in top condition.

 

Good spot. The lume dots on the face look off centre, and someone’s tried to re-lume the minute hand.

 

No they haven't. It's just degradation of the lume. The dial looks completely fine.

 

Thank you all. I will be patient and looking for something in better condition - case + movement. Is it safe to assume that this dial can be used as benchmark when evaluating OG’s dials from this period of time? Will upload some more photos shortly...

 

What about this one? Case in similar condition, dial looking better(redialed?) and the movement looking very good.





This one is gold plated - should be considered as advantage or disadvantage? Or is it simply manner of choice? Correct me please, if I am wrong, but with any technology of gold plating it will eventually be worn out and lower the value of the watch? Any watch I will be buying to my collection will be used - depending from the numbers more or less often.

 

If a plated watch of decent quality is used only sparingly, there is no reason why the plating shouldn't hold up well. On this example, it is clear that the plating has worn off in places, which is a shame. Plated cases will - all things being equal - be valued lower than stainless steel cases.

 

If you want a great entry level Omega I suggest the Ref.135070 and 136070
Ref.165070 and 166070 for the automatic Version
Or a Ref.135041 and 136041
and Ref.165041 and 166041 for the automatic Version.
Those are great Watches with good movements that can be had under 450 USD easily. Good hunt.

 

Thank you very much!

 

Exactly 10/10

 

Lume dots certainly look off but that's why I said a frontal pic needed. Minute hand lume is just a bit worn. I'm inclined to untouched but need better pics.

 

Thanks @Rochete! What do you think about this piece https://omegaforums.net/threads/vintage-omega.100376/page-2#post-1313341? Thanks in advance for reply!

 

As discussed in other posts on OF, there are places that replate gold and other finishes. For the hassle and cost though, it would mostly need to be a special piece (sentimental to rare) that you couldn’t just buy in already great shape. As mentioned by others above, 70’s Geneve’s can likely be found in good shape and replating would not generally be a good investment. I have heard that these folks do good work http://www.replateit.com/