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  1. Sam11 Mar 20, 2020

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    Hi is there a possibility that this dial be genuine? I was suspicious because there is no 'swiss made' under 6oclock and back case has no `seamaster'. But given the oxidised hands and original leather band, could the dial be correct?
     
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  2. Sam11 Mar 20, 2020

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    Another photo from seller
     
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  3. padders Oooo subtitles! Mar 20, 2020

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    Its probably there but hidden under the rehaut. That happens a lot.

    If it is a manual wind model from the mid 1950s, possibly in a local Dennision case then there would be no text on the rear.
     
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  4. Sam11 Mar 20, 2020

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    Thanks for your reply. Is it still possible to see it if one tries to peek closely without taking the watch apart? And what are your thoughts on the fonts on the dial?
     
  5. Sam11 Mar 20, 2020

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    Ah I see.... Because I have seen other examples with Seamaster on the edge of back case.
     
  6. padders Oooo subtitles! Mar 20, 2020

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    Yes you might be able to see the Swiss made text if you look closely at an angle. All looks good to me. In fact it is quite possible I bought that exact model at the weekend:

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  7. Sam11 Mar 20, 2020

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    Oh my that's a very good example!!!!
     
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  8. Sam11 Mar 20, 2020

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    What does your back case look like?
     
  9. padders Oooo subtitles! Mar 20, 2020

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    Exactly like the one you show. No text. What you have there is likely from the mid-late 1950s using the 420 manual wind movement, most likely in a UK made Dennison case. The Swiss made cases had 'Seamaster' and "Waterproof' on the back, the UK cases did not. I don't think the crown on the watch you show is original, it isn't the kind usually seen on a fat lug SM.

    The Swiss equivalent is model 2761 but based on the caseback I am betting that is a UK cased version, like mine.
     
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  10. Sam11 Mar 20, 2020

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    Wow thank you. And congrats on your watch. It is a very nice example indeed
     
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    You might be right because this watch is located in the UK
     
  12. padders Oooo subtitles! Mar 20, 2020

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    Up to you but if you want to talk numbers, give us an idea what the asking price is and I'll give you an opinion if it is fair. Being a manual wind, that model is IMO worth a little less than the auto 2577 bumper or 2846 full rotor fat lug models, maybe £100 to £150 less. The strap being original doesn't add a lot but an original buckle can add value if it still has that.
     
  13. Sam11 Mar 20, 2020

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    Ah I see. 300gbp and not even keeping time so needs a service
     
  14. OMEGuy Mar 20, 2020

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    That isn't too far out the way, but obviously with it needing work, less would be better since even when fully working I doubt it would fetch much more than £400.
    My guess is yes it is there but hidden. Note the difference in the S from the above and the earlier 2, these ran for quite a while and straddled the bumper to full rotor fat lug era so several font versions exist. Nice colour on that one!
     
  16. wilderbeast Mar 20, 2020

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    My 1950s cal 420 also has a plain case back. The example @padders posted is what you should aspire to. Mine is similar, but has sadly been redialled (though redials need love too):

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  17. OMEGuy Mar 20, 2020

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    Beautiful patina indeed.

    I can't figure out to find anything like "SWISS MADE" on the OPs watch and I'm not 100% sure I can see a rehaut.
     
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  18. OMEGuy Mar 20, 2020

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    This watch looks very good and it is one of the nicest redials I've ever seen.

    But I would consider a relume of the hour markers and maybe the (relumed) hands. It won't be expensive and bring a lot of more life to the dial and hands, so meaning the face of this watch.

    The second hand is too long, it should end with the minute track. It won't be difficult to find a matching hand, if you should prefer to swap.

    Since I don't know if you wanted to hear my opinion, I took the risk to let it go...
     
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  19. wilderbeast Mar 20, 2020

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    Always happy to hear from you, @OMEGuy. I know the second hand is too long and the hands are replacements at service (I have the originals). As this was my first vintage Omega, I’m leaving it as it is and just enjoying wearing it as it is. It’s an anniversary present from my wife and I’m happy with it - glad to get an endorsement for the redial, though, which I also think is pretty good based on other (original) examples of the reference I’ve seen.

    since acquiring it, and joining the forum here, I’ve been fortunate to add some originals to the collection.
     
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