Omega de Ville Co-Axial limited edition 1999; investment piece

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No one has said anything about dealers not being able to post such threads, so there's no need to take offence here. I was simply letting Chris know that your reasons for buying watches may be quite different from others here who are not buying watches with the express intent to resell, and you are doing it as a business.

If I was buying to resell, I would not care one bit if I liked the watch or not, only if it is something that can be resold without issue. You have openly stated you are a dealer on these forums, so I wasn't telling any secrets...

Cheers, Al
Thanks Al, no worries always really love your input on OF.
 
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Dear OF,

What are your thought about the Omega de Ville Co-Axial limited edition 1999.

To me this watch is really interesting.

The Omega de Ville limited series of 1999 is the first serial produced watch that has a co-axial movement. It was introduced in 1999 as a limited series in red gold with a dark blue dial, yellow gold with a silvered dial gold and platinum also with a silvered dial. Although I don鈥檛 like all the writing on the dial, this watch has been really important for the company Omega. It was the first watch that used the co-axial escapement of George Daniels. An invention that improves the accuracy of the watch significantly. George Daniels went to other companies like Patek Philippe and Rolex to show prototypes of this movement in their own watches, but all showd no interest. ~Until the late Nicolas Hayek from Omega close a deal. Although the horological industry was first introduced to the concept in 1976, Daniels' escapement was met with scepticism and lack of interest. It was not until the 1980s that Swatch Group chairman Nicolas Hayek adopted the concept, using it in his upmarket Omega brand. Since the late nineties he co-axial movement has been a cornerstone of the watch design of Omega.

From other sites:
1999 saw the launch of the Daniels-designed Co-Axial Escapement within Omega鈥檚 De Ville collection. To celebrate the launch limited edition watches were produced, This first series of watches made in yellow gold 999 pieces, rose gold 999 pieces and platinum in a super limited 99 pieces only. In London a launch party was held at Watches of Switzerland, Bond Street at which George Daniels was present

A very important watch. Although I don't like all the lines of text on the dial, this is a cool piece of history for Omega.
Is this an interesting investment piece? Time will tell. Would love to know your thoughts!

Best, Wouter



My thoughts?

- those watches are cosmetically challenged IMHO: put any basic 1960's omega on the table near those things, the oldie will blow them out of the water. Not to mention higher end 18k textured dials, onyx indexes, etc.
You talked about the flightmaster being an ugly duckling : I won't go against you, I personally find the case an unwearable and unsightly contraption. But the dial and hands are top notch! Those modern things can't even manage an applied logo, and are designed for guys/gals who don't wear their glasses very often. They could also have written in all-caps on the dials for better legibility 馃う

-investment? 馃槖 long term? 馃槖馃槖
-how and by whom will those co axials be maintained in 10, 20, 30 years? for how much?馃嵖

Rant over! I took my pills, I'll calm down now and quietly return to the vintage section 馃榿
 
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I like your style Bob. Second time this day I am crying out loud. Also after you trio comment. Which on of this trio would you pick at date night? I prefer the black and the salmon. YG is too much plane Jane to me

Thank you.

Agreed: the YG does nothing for me, the other two seem to be in a photo finish. One thing I do like, however: all models do have a nice, hefty crown, something your fingers can really get a hold of. Really dislike watches with tiny, hard-to-wind crowns.
 
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2500a movement I'll pass 馃槈 ::stirthepot::
 
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Only time will tell but honestly considering the very little (no) chatter that this one gets it鈥檚 going to be a while before it appreciates to any significant level. It鈥檚 a historic piece for OMEGA but just not that interesting otherwise especially considering these early co ax models had some problems. Personally I don鈥檛 mind the writing on the dial it鈥檚 the case that doesn鈥檛 do anything for me.
 
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They look absolutely hideous.
It would take someone quite a while to convince me that those are not fakes. What where the designers thinking?! 馃え
 
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I guess most agree it is a quite important piece. But the dial design is a quite off. I wonder if this watch will appreciate in the future even if the dial design does not represent the pinnacle of Omega's esthetics. Nowadays the Co-axial movement represents one of the cornerstones of Omega engineering

Really? Who?
 
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Well all the haters are wrong since it has risen in value significantly. It's a historical watch by the master himself. And in person, it's beautiful. There's an elegance to the proportions and the luster on the salmon dial is sublime.
 
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Well all the haters are wrong since it has risen in value significantly. It's a historical watch by the master himself. And in person, it's beautiful. There's an elegance to the proportions and the luster on the salmon dial is sublime.
I鈥檇 like to see proof of that. The early coaxial model were rife with problems and this model has very challenging looks so I鈥檇 be surprised if they have a serious collector following. Which master? Daniels? He had very little to do with this watch, it鈥檚 one of millions of coax Omegas not a Daniels and the first escapement versions differ a lot from his vision. By all means link to some recent sold examples if you鈥檝e seen them appreciate in value.
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Well all the haters are wrong since it has risen in value significantly. It's a historical watch by the master himself. And in person, it's beautiful. There's an elegance to the proportions and the luster on the salmon dial is sublime.

It鈥檚 ugly as sin.

And the only involvement Daniels had it in, was selling the design and copyright to Omega - who then had to do an awful lot to it to make the concept work in production.

As to value - all ships rise at high tide.