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jdfst1
·New to the forum. Any help with the estimated year and value? I appreciate it.
Omega constellation year? Value?
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ErichKeane
·That looks like a Pie Pan dial Omega, you'll have to pull the case back to find out the reference number.
I hear this isn't a perfect reference, but it is at least one: https://vintagewatchlife.com/en-us/blogs/ニュース/omega-constellation-reference-guide-the-pie-pan-era
That dial looks like it is repainted though. The closed 'N' on the bottom is weird, and the minute markers are incredibly inconsistent.
I hear this isn't a perfect reference, but it is at least one: https://vintagewatchlife.com/en-us/blogs/ニュース/omega-constellation-reference-guide-the-pie-pan-era
That dial looks like it is repainted though. The closed 'N' on the bottom is weird, and the minute markers are incredibly inconsistent.
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goudaville
·looks like a gold capped ref. 14393, which would date it to 1959 or early 1960s. I'll leave value to somebody else. also won't speak on whether the dial is repainted but the star looks odd to me, but could be the photo
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ErichKeane
·looks like a gold capped ref. 14393, which would date it to 1959 or early 1960s. I'll leave value to somebody else. also won't speak on whether the dial is repainted but the star looks odd to me, but could be the photo
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jdfst1
·That looks like a Pie Pan dial Omega, you'll have to pull the case back to find out the reference number.
I hear this isn't a perfect reference, but it is at least one: https://vintagewatchlife.com/en-us/blogs/ニュース/omega-constellation-reference-guide-the-pie-pan-era
That dial looks like it is repainted though. The closed 'N' on the bottom is weird, and the minute markers are incredibly inconsistent.
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goudaville
·That looks like a Pie Pan dial Omega, you'll have to pull the case back to find out the reference number.
I hear this isn't a perfect reference, but it is at least one: https://vintagewatchlife.com/en-us/blogs/ニュース/omega-constellation-reference-guide-the-pie-pan-era
That dial looks like it is repainted though. The closed 'N' on the bottom is weird, and the minute markers are incredibly inconsistent.
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ErichKeane
·Thank I appreciate you writing. Any thoughts on the value?
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wagudc
·Doesn't the 14393 have a date complication? This doesn't.
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hant26
·14381 and the case is in good condition IMO. I have no comment on the dial. The price varies depending on where you live. If the dial is original, more than 1000usd is understandable
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorBeing a repainted/redial and a plated case, I'd say "very little". Probably worth less than the service it likely desperately needs.
The case is not “plated”, it is gold capped. The process to make it is much different than electroplating and used about 5 to 10 times more gold. It also seems to be in very good condition. It has not been over polished like most other examples we see here.
The watch has value well in excess of what a service should cost. Find a good independent watchmaker in your area familiar with vintage watches.
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ErichKeane
·I disagree. This is a Ref. 14381. On this reference, the dials do not always have “Officially Certified”. I believe this dial to be original. Not perfect, but still original.
The case is not “plated”, it is gold capped. The process to make it is much different than electroplating and used about 5 to 10 times more gold. It also seems to be in very good condition. It has not been over polished like most other examples we see here.
The watch has value well in excess of what a service should cost. Find a good independent watchmaker in your area familiar with vintage watches.
gatorcpa
You're not wrong about the case, it does look pretty sharp.
I'm aware about the lack of Officially Certified not being a problem, I didn't say anything about that, did I? My concerns on the dial are the closed 'n' basically touching (I've never seen one that close before, nor when I looked a ton of pictures). Look at the differences betwen teh two 'n's on Constellation. There is a significant difference in shape, the on on the end looks poorly done (though the more I look at it, the more I think the REST of the word except the last two letters is perhaps right).
In CHRONOMETER, there is a significant difference in size and shape of the 2 'E's.
Also, there are quite a few minute markers that look very much drawn in. I bring your attention to:
2, which is tilted, and shorter than the ones next to it.
4- Also tilted
8 and 9, which go closer to the 'bend' than the others.
11- Tilted again.
17- Smuged and short
18- Particularly long, and a little wiggly
20: Not nearly as large as the rest of the 5-minute-markers
21: also kinda 'U' shaped,not straight
26-28: all of these are different lengths, only 1 is possibly straight.
32 and 33: Of the 4 between 30 and 35, those two are longer
39: Has a 'tail' off the end of it (I see 'worse' on 36, but I imagine that is damage)
40: not 'square' at the end, its pretty rounded.
41-44 are seemingly the shorter ones here, though 46 is short as well
Rest have something goofy looking, but 56-59 are all different lenghts again, and don't really look 'straight'.
All that said, if this isn't a redial, as you said, it is likely worth a good amount, 2-3k based on the recently solds on Ebay. That said, that dial looks awful suspicious to me. I actually find myself wondering (in part because Constellation is good for about 70% of it) if instead of being a redial/repainted dial, it is only somewhat repainted. More a 'touched up' vs whole-repainted.
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taworn
·I'm aware of the 'technical' difference between plating and capped, I was trying to make it clear to OP that it doesn't really have any 'gold' value, I guess I should find a way to better do that.
You're not wrong about the case, it does look pretty sharp.
I'm aware about the lack of Officially Certified not being a problem, I didn't say anything about that, did I? My concerns on the dial are the closed 'n' basically touching (I've never seen one that close before, nor when I looked a ton of pictures). Look at the differences betwen teh two 'n's on Constellation. There is a significant difference in shape, the on on the end looks poorly done (though the more I look at it, the more I think the REST of the word except the last two letters is perhaps right).
In CHRONOMETER, there is a significant difference in size and shape of the 2 'E's.
Also, there are quite a few minute markers that look very much drawn in. I bring your attention to:
2, which is tilted, and shorter than the ones next to it.
4- Also tilted
8 and 9, which go closer to the 'bend' than the others.
11- Tilted again.
17- Smuged and short
18- Particularly long, and a little wiggly
20: Not nearly as large as the rest of the 5-minute-markers
21: also kinda 'U' shaped,not straight
26-28: all of these are different lengths, only 1 is possibly straight.
32 and 33: Of the 4 between 30 and 35, those two are longer
39: Has a 'tail' off the end of it (I see 'worse' on 36, but I imagine that is damage)
40: not 'square' at the end, its pretty rounded.
41-44 are seemingly the shorter ones here, though 46 is short as well
Rest have something goofy looking, but 56-59 are all different lenghts again, and don't really look 'straight'.
All that said, if this isn't a redial, as you said, it is likely worth a good amount, 2-3k based on the recently solds on Ebay. That said, that dial looks awful suspicious to me. I actually find myself wondering (in part because Constellation is good for about 70% of it) if instead of being a redial/repainted dial, it is only somewhat repainted. More a 'touched up' vs whole-repainted.
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ErichKeane
·Thank you for elaborate the detail. Do you feel odd about the font too? IMHO, I feel strange about the whole dial, but think the case is good. I’m very new though
I have no reason to doubt the case though.
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cristos71
·Dial looks original to me. The discepancies to the text printing are likely due to distortion caused by a beat up crystal and low res pictures. Condition looks potentially very good.
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersI can see why someone might think there is something wrong with the dial due to low quality pictures.
I’m in the ‘dial is original’ camp myself.
IMHO the issues are down to low res pics and scratches on the crystal but only much better photos would confirm.
The dial isn’t perfect and there may be some lume loss otherwise it’s quite a nice watch.
I also think it’s important to be accurate with language in these discussions (even when we’re being brief) otherwise misinformation is spread unnecessarily.
Gold capped is not gold plated.
A pie pan dial Omega is not a reference of watch.
The two Ns in Constellation should be slightly different.
Market value for a gold capped 14381 like this should be no more than 1500 of your chosen currency - preferably less.
I’m in the ‘dial is original’ camp myself.
IMHO the issues are down to low res pics and scratches on the crystal but only much better photos would confirm.
The dial isn’t perfect and there may be some lume loss otherwise it’s quite a nice watch.
I also think it’s important to be accurate with language in these discussions (even when we’re being brief) otherwise misinformation is spread unnecessarily.
Gold capped is not gold plated.
A pie pan dial Omega is not a reference of watch.
The two Ns in Constellation should be slightly different.
Market value for a gold capped 14381 like this should be no more than 1500 of your chosen currency - preferably less.
