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Shabbaz
·Dial looks good to me. Needs some TLC though. What's the price?
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Shabbaz
·Aren't the towliners without "Certified" from 1960 to 1962 or nearby?
14mil serial would be far to early for that...
https://omegaforums.net/threads/took-a-chance-on-an-interesting-constellation.77262/
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MtV
·What “worries” me with this dial is that it appears to have a sunburst finish, no?
There are many of you out there who are less out of their depth discussing this than I am, but I thought sunburst finishes were a thing of the 60s rather than the 50s. The 2852 ConElPueblo found has a plain white dial, too, it seems.
There are many of you out there who are less out of their depth discussing this than I am, but I thought sunburst finishes were a thing of the 60s rather than the 50s. The 2852 ConElPueblo found has a plain white dial, too, it seems.
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Shabbaz
·I did a quick scan and I could'nt find a two liner with a 501. You can find them with a 505. So indeed maybe a swap
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··Bill @ ΩFIt seems to be the case here
Not sure a 501 /505 dial will fit on a 551 movement... or visa a versa.
a few things l like about the watch..
501 chronometre ( maybe 25,000 produced)
bevel on the bezel is present...
I like the two line dial ( maybe a later service dial from Omega ). but not repainted.
what scares me . see there is corrosion on the caseback above " Constellation " semi curved... might be a weak point... hard to see in the photos...
Bill
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Bill Sohne
··Bill @ ΩFI’m positive that the dial is from 167.005
Thank you so much for your help!!
Bill
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Gas 73
·Thank you all for your help!!
I will keep on looking for a nice and original example.
I will keep on looking for a nice and original example.
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alefar
·Is the 501 a movement any constellations used? Shouldn't a constellation movement write 'adjusted in 5 positions' on it? I'm trying to learn more on vintage constellations so please excuse my ignorance😁
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Bill Sohne
··Bill @ ΩFIs the 501 a movement any constellations used? Shouldn't a constellation movement write 'adjusted in 5 positions' on it? I'm trying to learn more on vintage constellations so please excuse my ignorance😁
Hi
On the 501 / 505 the adj signage is on the rotor itself not the on the rotor bridge..
best
bill
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alefar
·Hi
On the 501 / 505 the adj signage is on the rotor itself not the on the rotor bridge..
best
bill
Thanks😁👍
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Zapatta
·501 chronometre ( maybe 25,000 produced)
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··Bill @ ΩFAs I know, 504 is produced in 25 000 examples? 😕
Check either JTT or OS ....
19j 501 was chronometre grade and not many produced.
I will see if i can find my copy somewhere....
yes 504 first full rotor auto chronometre date movement.... uncommon... as well...
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omegawatchlover
·Also agree with others, the dial doesn't seem to belong with the case. Looks like a 14381 dial in that early connies 2852 case. When I think of 2852, I think of arrowhead, shark tooth, numbered.. ya know not your typical hour markers. Either way, it's a nice find!
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!However it happened, whether via service dial, redial or swap, there is no way that movement came out the factory with that dial back in ~1955. Firstly Chronometer would be spelled the ‘re’ way, it would have 3 lines of text and thirdly that index design wasn’t seen that early AFAIK.
Another option is that an earlier 1955 movement was dropped into an otherwise straight ~1960 2852. I vaguely recall seeing a 2 liner dial late on in production but I could be mistaken.
Another option is that an earlier 1955 movement was dropped into an otherwise straight ~1960 2852. I vaguely recall seeing a 2 liner dial late on in production but I could be mistaken.
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··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersAren't the towliners without "Certified" from 1960 to 1962 or nearby?
14mil serial would be far to early for that...
'58-'62 IIRC
Agree with the above that the dial/movt/case didn't start life together. (pick any combination)
I’m positive that the dial is from 167.005
It's possible that some 'missing text' dials made their way onto very early '63 doglegs (like the uncommon arrowhead dials) but they would be very very unusual.
14381 or 14900 would be the best bet - although I vaguely recall a 2852 with this style of dial but as above the style of dial looks more in keeping with a later reference.
I don't know if the dial feet would fit a 501 movt -but if they don't, who's to say there are any feet on the back of the dial?
