Omega Constellation - Buyer Advice

sgp23 · May 24, 2022

Fellow Omega experts,

Would love some advice as to whether or not this watch looks legitimate and if it’s the right price. I’m a novice so I’m probably missing a few things, but the one concerning thing is that the seller says this watch has a pie pan when it clearly does not.

Here’s the link to the listing: https://chrono24.app/omega/omega-co...ter--id21528898.htm?SETLANG=en_US&SETCURR=USD

Olhenry56 · May 24, 2022

You should post the pictures here for others to see even after the sale has ended.

Unless I'm very mistaken, that's a repainted dial. I don't think the vertical cross hair should ever be broken like that.

mydeafcat · May 25, 2022

Not to mention those minute markers….

Stick around a while and monitor the Private Sales forum, as well as the Recommended Vintage OMEGA WATCHES (only) On EBAY (NOT for Inquiries) under the Vintage forum.

Lastly, grab a beverage and have a read:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/learn-how-to-fish.52603/

MtV · May 25, 2022

Not a good example, unfortunately. Seller might not even know himself. He's using quite some fluff, but he's picking his language carefully. Note how the description states "watch comes on it's [sic] original leather strap", but a vague "and a original Omega box". He knows it's just a generic box of the time that's worth 30€ or so, not the correct Constellation box, and adjusts the language accordingly.

Either way, his claim that it's the original dial in perfect condition is BS, of course. Redial, also not a pie pan style, as you've noted. Significantly polished case, I doubt "their watchmaker" actually performed a satisfactory service. Crown also isnt original to the watch, but a replacement. Oh, and the tip of the second hand has broken off / the minute hand is too long. Why? Because this is a dome dial that had its minute ticks on the far outside. Whoever redialed it decided to create the illusion of a pie pan dial by using their style of minute tick positioning, clipped the second hand for it and just left the minute hand as-is.

Also, a word regarding the price: Attractive dome dial 14381 in original condition can be found for under 1k€. His asking is more than twice that.

mutanthands · May 25, 2022

If the seller clearly can't even describe their own watch accurately, that's a massive red flag. Steer clear!

Also, great job on asking the experts on here before a purchase. Due diligence is always welcomed. 😀

Waltesefalcon · May 25, 2022

Here's my 1960 14381. Notice that the minute hand extends to the track, this is something to always look for. You'll also note that the crosshairs extend through the "Omega Automatic Chronometer," and the "Constellation" scripts, something else to slays look for.

MtV · May 25, 2022

Waltesefalcon
Notice that the minute hand extends to the track, this is something to always look for.

On a 14381, yes. But for other refs, there are exceptions to the rule:

Olhenry56 · May 25, 2022

S sgp23
Fellow Omega experts,

Would love some advice as to whether or not this watch looks legitimate and if it’s the right price. I’m a novice so I’m probably missing a few things, but the one concerning thing is that the seller says this watch has a pie pan when it clearly does not.

Here’s the link to the listing: https://chrono24.app/omega/omega-co...ter--id21528898.htm?SETLANG=en_US&SETCURR=USD

As others have mentioned, study the watches on this forum and learn what the red flags are. If you find a watch you like, find out the reference number (marked on the inside of the case back) and search the forum for examples to compare. I recommend using the Google search "site" feature to search references since the built in search on the forum doesn't haven't numbers. For example, in Google type "site:Omega forums.net 14381" and you can even click on "images" to easily compare examples.

You didn't buy it, so you've done better than I did on my first purchase. My second purchase was a nice constellation for a fair price from this forum, so keep an eye out here

savka · May 25, 2022

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Desmond's blog yet: http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com/

Great resource for learning all about Omega Constellations, even once you know a good deal about them. I recommend spending some time reading the posts both on that site and on these forums to learn as much as you can. Keep an eye on the recommended eBay thread, the sales corner, and feel free to keep asking questions as you progress in your search. Happy hunting -- and remember to buy the seller, not the watch.

Waltesefalcon · May 25, 2022

MtV
On a 14381, yes. But for other refs, there are exceptions to the rule:

Yes, you are certainly correct and I should have been clear on that point.

Dan S · May 25, 2022

I still don't see any photos of the OP watch. 😕

Omega Constellation - Buyer Advice

sgp23

Olhenry56

mydeafcat

MtV

mutanthands

Waltesefalcon

MtV

Olhenry56

savka

Waltesefalcon

Dan S

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