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Omega Constellation 166.041- it's a bleedin' FAKE!

  1. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Nov 21, 2018

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    I originally posted this in the 'fake Omega thread' but having repeatedly advised the auction house that this was a fake watch and they still sold it, I'm really pissed off about this - so I thought I'd post a separate thread as, hopefully, a public service to the buyer.

    The watch was sold today for a staggering £1,100 hammer price - which equates to something like £1,500 all in.

    Having emailed them asking why they hadn't withdrawn the watch I received a reply back today from Hannam's, the auction house selling the fake Constellation, advising me that "several watch dealers" had viewed the watch and they had received "no other question of authenticity".
    They further advised that if any problems arise, buyers have 28 days to return any item for a refund.

    I realise that auction houses can't be experts in every field - but I even sent them pictures of a Constellation movement and a medallion of an 18k watch to illustrate how bad a fake their lot was.

    I think this is a really poor show and have told the auction house one more time that the watch is a really bad fake and that they should sort it out and not expect the buyer to.
    (who may have relied on their description of the watch as "an Omega Constellation")


    So, hopefully in the next 28 days, if they don't the right thing and the buyer googles their new watch they might find this thread and return the abomination that is masquerading as an Omega Constellation.
    (However, IMHO, this won't excuse Hannam's poor behaviour in the matter)

    For the record, as Hannam's were advised by myself, the watch has:
    the wrong dial
    the wrong dial furniture
    the wrong hands
    the wrong crown
    the wrong case
    the wrong medallion on the caseback
    the wrong movement
    and that it is a really bad fake!

    and it even has the wrong reference inside the caseback (which I think is for a Geneve)

    pics for posterity:
    Lot 357 'Omega Constellation' Hannam's auction November 21 2018 - shameful....

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    Edited Nov 21, 2018
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  2. Rochete

    Rochete Nov 21, 2018

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    Holy shit, what movement is that? ::facepalm2::

    Medallion looks like made with play dough.
     
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  3. efauser

    efauser I ♥ karma!!! Nov 21, 2018

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    Those lugs look so good, though. I can see how anyone would be fooled.
     
    Edited Nov 21, 2018
  4. Dero13

    Dero13 4 watches. All set to the wrong time. Nov 21, 2018

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    Wow thats a real POS. Whatever watch dealers that viewed that and couldnt tell it was a fake have no business providing authentication claims on Constellations
     
  5. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Nov 21, 2018

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    my exact response was:
    "if any watch dealer deemed this particular watch to be authentic then they know nothing (at all) about Omega Constellations."
     
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  6. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Nov 21, 2018

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    interestingly I just received this from the auction house

    "I will advise the buyer we will be taking the Omega to an independent specialist to advise on the piece.
    Should it be deemed to be a reproduction, the buyer will not be obliged to buy the item."

    better late than never and hopefully this POS will be consigned to the bin where it belongs
     
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  7. superfly

    superfly Nov 21, 2018

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    Nice job @Peemacgee. I'm guessing you just saved that buyer a bunch of money. :thumbsup: You should post a couple photos of your authentic example - the photos you sent to the auction house - in this thread for comparison. Really drive home the point, even for people currently unfamiliar with Constellations (like me).
     
  8. Peemacgee

    Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Nov 21, 2018

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    these are the pictures of my 18k Constellation that I sent to the auction house so that they may compare the movement and the medallion
    (I did describe the movement in a Constellation as 'a thing of horological beauty" - which I think is fair) $_57-18.JPG
    $_57-20.JPG
     
  9. KingCrouchy

    KingCrouchy Nov 21, 2018

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    @Peemacgee This fake is such a POS how couldn't they spot the fake? Thanks for your effort
     
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  10. Edward53

    Edward53 Nov 21, 2018

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    An obvious fake and what disgraceful, utterly unprofessional behaviour by Hannams. From their website:

    "Hannam's Auctioneers will focus on items of good quality and with impeccable provenance where possible..."

    [but if we can't get those, we'll throw in a monstrosity or two]

    "using the online market to ensure clients receive the best possible exposure for their items..."

    Well, this has certainly received some exposure, though possibly not the sort they had in mind.
     
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  11. bags1971

    bags1971 Nov 21, 2018

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    wow and dealers thought it was real you even see the plating coming off

    i saw a tudor montecarlo yesterday which looked the real deal until i was shown the red flags it was pretty scary how good it looked
     
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  12. ahsposo

    ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Nov 21, 2018

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    And the dial! Perfectly preserved...
     
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  13. Rochete

    Rochete Nov 21, 2018

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    Will that rotor actually rotate?

    Love the state-of-the-art balance too ::facepalm1::
     
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  14. Sherbie

    Sherbie Nov 21, 2018

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    I’m not convinced that the case is even 18k

    No hallmarks on the lugs as far as i can see

    This is borderline fraud, in my opinion, and will certainly be giving these cowboys a wide berth from now on
     
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  15. Rochete

    Rochete Nov 21, 2018

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    Look at the tips of lugs, the metal underneath must be 18k white gold.
     
  16. Davidt

    Davidt Nov 21, 2018

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    My god look at that movement!!!

    Well done @Peemacgee
     
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  17. MCC

    MCC Nov 21, 2018

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    The auction watch really does look thrown together, but what was the buyer thinking ??
     
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  18. Sherbie

    Sherbie Nov 21, 2018

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    B8DCA48E-8C33-4969-ADC7-A81E098046D7.png 151B22CA-CD2F-4F16-B72A-FDC1F296B92A.png Lot 253 looked much nicer
     
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  19. Sherbie

    Sherbie Nov 21, 2018

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    Interestingly, they didnt describe the watch as 18k gold, so they KNEW it was fake

    All other listings, where a watch was 9 or 18k, they call this out in the description and auction listing

    So....it is Fraud
     
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  20. got to many

    got to many Nov 21, 2018

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    I saw this sell today they are not the first auction house to sell fakes featonby another name and shame
     
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