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JLN765
路In case anyone is interested, see photos of the inside of this watch I've been chasing. Unfortunately, not as good of photos as I would like but is what I can do right now.
Omega Chronometre - Worth Buying?
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Ottsby
路33 mm is small in my book, but it also depends on what the lug-to-lug width is in terms of wearing. I'd work on the price if you really want it.
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aprax
路Seeking opinions/knowledge . . . after looking again at some photos of known factory originals of the ref. 2364, 2365 and 2366 I can see differences between the one I'm looking at and these photos (specifically for the 2364).
It appears that the watch I'm looking at has the dial for a 2364 but has a case (and crown) for a 2365 (or 2366).
馃槙
Can you elaborate as to the case differences?
FAIK the 2365 has a thicker case (because of the additional bridge for the central seconds). Have you measured the thickness? The 2366 is 35.5mm. Yours is evidently 33mm.
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Franco
路Hi
The 2364 and 2365 had an essentially identical case, circa 33mm diameter. The 2366 and 2367 also same, at 35.5 mm. Have never measured the thickness but will do in the next hour.
Dials and hands were slightly different, 2364 and 2365 about 29mm diameter, 2366 and 2367 about 31mm.
The movement looks in excellent conditions and no marks from humidity, which is what you expect with such a pristine case and dial.
If you cannot get hold of Mac-Omega鈥檚 excellent book, have a look at my post:
http://squelettewatches.com/chronometres-30mm/
I would advise an Omega extract, to confirm that thw movement was born in a 2364, and not a 2366 (n case).
Best wishes
Franco
The 2364 and 2365 had an essentially identical case, circa 33mm diameter. The 2366 and 2367 also same, at 35.5 mm. Have never measured the thickness but will do in the next hour.
Dials and hands were slightly different, 2364 and 2365 about 29mm diameter, 2366 and 2367 about 31mm.
The movement looks in excellent conditions and no marks from humidity, which is what you expect with such a pristine case and dial.
If you cannot get hold of Mac-Omega鈥檚 excellent book, have a look at my post:
http://squelettewatches.com/chronometres-30mm/
I would advise an Omega extract, to confirm that thw movement was born in a 2364, and not a 2366 (n case).
Best wishes
Franco
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aprax
路The 2364 and 2365 had an essentially identical case, circa 33mm diameter. The 2366 and 2367 also same, at 35.5 mm. Have never measured the thickness but will do in the next hour.
The difference between 2364 and 2365 is in the case back. The 2365 case back is domed in order to accomodate the additional 1.1mm in height of the SC movement (I am quoting Mac-Omegas truly magnificent book here, p. 183). In all other respects the 2364 and 2365 cases are identical. So with the head-on pic we've got from the OP it is impossible to determine if the watch has a domed case back. That's why I asked him whether he's measured the thickness. His assertion that it might be a 2365 case is otherwise incomprehensible.
The other assertion, that it might be a 2366 case, is evidently wrong, as stated above.
And the crowns were identical in all those references.
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mac_omega
路Case is pristine as is the movement.
Clearly a ref 2364
nice dial of the variant rom 2 (which means applied roman numerals, cross hairs, printed logo in my book)
I have no doubt that this watch is all original - all parts are commensurate when judging the condition...
If it really comes with the correct chronometer box and the original hang tag it is a clear buy for me 馃憤
When will you see a well preserved example like this the next time? Maybe at a large auction house with a much higher price I bet.
Please show the box, the hang tag and the inner caseback if you can - for enhanced assessment for your ease of mind.
kind regards
Erich
Clearly a ref 2364
nice dial of the variant rom 2 (which means applied roman numerals, cross hairs, printed logo in my book)
I have no doubt that this watch is all original - all parts are commensurate when judging the condition...
If it really comes with the correct chronometer box and the original hang tag it is a clear buy for me 馃憤
When will you see a well preserved example like this the next time? Maybe at a large auction house with a much higher price I bet.
Please show the box, the hang tag and the inner caseback if you can - for enhanced assessment for your ease of mind.
kind regards
Erich
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JLN765
路Hello,
Franco, indeed I did find your excellent web page (squelettewatches.com), which has been my primary reference so far (that plus the help received here). I am starting the process of moving (for my job) to the east coast (US). Erich's book is certainly something worth having but will have to wait until I'm settled again.
I looked at the watch again yesterday (hence the picture) and confirmed a few more things. I am leaving the watch with the seller for another week so they can put the strap on for me (they had to order one).
I've been trying to post a picture of the open case, case back and hang tag but, for some reason, it isn't uploading correctly (??) - it is showing as an attachment at the bottom of my draft post (any ideas?). I'll keep trying. Once I have it home I will take pictures of the watch and case (in good light) and post them here for review.
I must say that this vintage Omega collecting bug has bitten me rather hard. This is due in no small part to the helpful advice and feedback received here.
Regards,
Jeff
Franco, indeed I did find your excellent web page (squelettewatches.com), which has been my primary reference so far (that plus the help received here). I am starting the process of moving (for my job) to the east coast (US). Erich's book is certainly something worth having but will have to wait until I'm settled again.
I looked at the watch again yesterday (hence the picture) and confirmed a few more things. I am leaving the watch with the seller for another week so they can put the strap on for me (they had to order one).
I've been trying to post a picture of the open case, case back and hang tag but, for some reason, it isn't uploading correctly (??) - it is showing as an attachment at the bottom of my draft post (any ideas?). I'll keep trying. Once I have it home I will take pictures of the watch and case (in good light) and post them here for review.
I must say that this vintage Omega collecting bug has bitten me rather hard. This is due in no small part to the helpful advice and feedback received here.
Regards,
Jeff
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MSNWatch
路路Vintage Omega Aficionado
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JLN765
路The box for the watch I am looking at is identical to the one in the post by MSNWatch - as above (as well as the hang tag).
I am curious about the strap - is the one shown original to this watch? If so, it is also identical to the one I'm purchasing (and it's in very good shape if it is). Someone in this thread previously said the strap was not original to the watch.
Regards,
I am curious about the strap - is the one shown original to this watch? If so, it is also identical to the one I'm purchasing (and it's in very good shape if it is). Someone in this thread previously said the strap was not original to the watch.
Regards,
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MSNWatch
路路Vintage Omega AficionadoThe box for the watch I am looking at is identical to the one in the post by MSNWatch - as above (as well as the hang tag).
I am curious about the strap - is the one shown original to this watch? If so, it is also identical to the one I'm purchasing (and it's in very good shape if it is). Someone in this thread previously said the strap was not original to the watch.
Regards,
That is the exact watch you are looking at.
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JLN765
路Ah, of course. I forgot about that picture!
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mac_omega
路all original except strap and buckle...
go for it!
go for it!
