Omega - chronometre - pocket watch - unique numbering

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Hi,
I got this beautiful Omega watch. It has a very high quality chronometer movement. What is interesting is the serial number of the movement and the case. I have never seen that in my life. Does anyone know what this numbering means? It is on the barell bridge, under balance and on the case. 37564
Thanks Petr

 
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Perhaps it is not an Omega?
 
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The silver case was made for Omega by an independant case maker.
I suspect the case and movement were marked with the casemaker's, or possibly Omega's "chronometer department" serial number so that the two components stayed together during the casing process.

Movement appears to be a caliber 19''' NN L 23P "Verybest" or possibly a 19''' NN L 23P DDR.
Maybe @OMTOM could confirm either way?

It's a beautiful watch and the dial design is unusual, but all Omega IMO..
 
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I am also sending a photo of the machine under the dial. I found that there is the entire serial number with the omega logo. SN: 2375644
So the number on the bridge and case is only the middle part of the entire production number.
I have a lot of Omega watches in my collection. But I've never seen this numbering.

Thank you Jiminoz, for specifying the caliber👍

 
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There is a number engraved beneath the rim of the balance wheel which doesn’t appear to agree with the serial number on the dial side of the pillar plate, or the partial s# on the barrel bridge, or the partial s# inside the cuvette. Also interesting is that this “chronometer” is stem-set, not lever set. I very much doubt it would be considered to be railroad grade.
 
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I very much doubt it would be considered to be railroad grade.
Where did anyone say that it was railroad grade?
 
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Where did anyone say that it was railroad grade?
A very best would be railroad grade as is the DDR
This movement is neither a DDR nor a very best. I have checked the serial and its not inkluded in the batches published in AJTT...
 
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Movement appears to be a caliber 19''' NN L 23P "Verybest" or possibly a 19''' NN L 23P DDR.


@JimInOz ,

To dispel any notion that the designation DDR which you included in your post, the DDR designation was used on Louis Brandt (Omega) railroad grade pocket watches. I’ll say it again (in case anyone might be confused by your designation DDR), this one would NOT be considered railroad grade. I felt your rude reply was entirely unwarranted!
 
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rude reply was entirely unwarranted!
It was a question, not intended to be rude.

I originally said that it "appears to be" either of those two calibers, and sought further opinion.
 
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…I have a lot of Omega watches in my collection…

We’d love to see more of your collection when you have time to post about them 👍
 
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There is a number engraved beneath the rim of the balance wheel which doesn’t appear to agree with the serial number on the dial side of the pillar plate, or the partial s# on the barrel bridge, or the partial s# inside the cuvette. Also interesting is that this “chronometer” is stem-set, not lever set. I very much doubt it would be considered to be railroad grade.
All numbers are same. Case, bridge, and under balance wheel - 37564.
On the other side of the movement under dial is complete number 2375644.
 
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Thank you Jim @JimInOz for the link.
Thank you Petr @zemic11 for showing your lovely watch.

In my opinion, the watch calibre is Omega 19’’’D. It is not an Omega case (as Jim mentioned).

I have an Omega 19’’’D watch with a similar (7-digit) movement number, also with a case which is not Omega (the case on mine is not silver and has a screw-back) - and I was told (by Omega Heritage) that the movement was probably sent to US or Canada, dating 1906.

I am not familiar with this type of dial. The hands are known as ‘No.10 Romaine’.

In the following image I compare my watch with that of Petr:


A difference is the number 37564 which appears next to the crown wheel on Petr’s watch.

My suggestion is that the casemaker chose to put the number 37564 on his case and also on the movement - and that this number was not put on the movement by Omega.

I do not understand how the number under the balance can be 37564 and not 2375644 - which would be the Omega ‘standard’, as occurs on my movement.

I do not subscribe to Jim’s suggestion that the number 37564 was put on the movement and case by Omega's "chronometer department". On the Omega watches for observatory competitions, the movement number was visible twice on the movement - thus under the balance and also on the plate - but this was not the case on the finest of the chronometer calibres such as the 47.7 or 60.8, where the movement number was visible only under the balance. In my opinion, this number (37564) was not put on the movement (next to the crown wheel) by Omega.

Regarding the subject of railroad grade watches, mentioned above by @Canuck, it is hardly relevant here. Regulations introduced by authorities (such as railroad companies) were to ensure safety, and in addition to accuracy (for example a maximum of 30 seconds variation in a week) there was a requirement that they were lever set. Even the very finest Omega chronometers that (for example) won observatory competitions were stem-set: they were not intended for railroad use and would not have met the standards required by railroad regulations - but only because they were not lever set: in terms of accuracy, they were way beyond the required accuracy standards.

To quote Marco Richon in AJTT (page 168) when he describes the Omega DDR, it was “The pinnacle of mechanised horology, no calibre of this quality had ever been produced in a factory!”.
 
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Thank you for the great insights and information. The watch was purchased in Switzerland, where it was owned by the original owner for several decades.
I wasn't so much concerned with the quality of the movement (I had it serviced and the movement is still amazing) I just wanted to know if the numbering means anything special.
I'll try to write to the Omega Museum to see if they can write me something about it...