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Omega 564 pie pan dial. Need advice on originality.

  1. kusjoe78

    kusjoe78 Apr 18, 2018

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    Hi, I am looking for a replacement dial for omega pie pan 564 and have been offered one by an old watchmaker here. However I am no expertise in this matter and would really appreciate experience member here to have a look at it.

    Here is the aformentioned dial. Greatly appreciate it.
    IMG-20180418-WA0015.jpg IMG-20180418-WA0014.jpg IMG-20180418-WA0025.jpg IMG-20180418-WA0026.jpg IMG-20180418-WA0024.jpg
     
  2. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 18, 2018

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    Real dial that has been refinished. The script is very well done. Periphery and minute markers a bit off.(periphery should be radial) For a refinished dial you probably won't find better.
    All depends on what you want and what will satisfy you.
     
  3. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 18, 2018

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    Two other points on this dial:

    1. There are notches for luminous material in the markers that was not replaced.

    2. The printing seems a tiny bit too large and out of proportion with the markers and star (which look to be original to a period Constellation).

    Hope this helps,
    gatorcpa
     
  4. kusjoe78

    kusjoe78 Apr 18, 2018

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    @cicindela and @gatorcpa, thank you so much for the input. Really appreciate it. I think I will.get this since its been a year looking for a replacement dial.
     
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  5. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 18, 2018

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    BTW, it is possible that this is an Omega service replacement dial.

    Most rediallers will make scratches on the back side of dials to help with ID of jobs after work is done.
    gatorcpa
     
  6. Screwbacks

    Screwbacks Apr 18, 2018

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    it may look better under the crystal.
     
  7. hoipolloi

    hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Apr 18, 2018

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    Should not use on a 564. A 561 with serial lower than 22 mil would fit.
     
  8. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 18, 2018

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    It will fit the movement, but will it fit the case? Ref. 168.005, I assume?
    gatorcpa
     
  9. hoipolloi

    hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Apr 18, 2018

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    Looks like it will fit the case but it is a lumed dial withou t, he has to add a t next to Swiss Made to fit it on a 564.
    561 with serial lower than 22 mil is ok.
     
  10. kusjoe78

    kusjoe78 Apr 18, 2018

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    yes, the case is a 168.005. will the dial fit in with cal 564?
     
  11. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 18, 2018

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    I think the Ref. 149XX cases are the same size as Ref. 16X.005. But not 100% sure.

    I also don’t know the exact dimensions of this dial.
    gatorcpa
     
  12. kusjoe78

    kusjoe78 Apr 18, 2018

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    I really appreciate the inputs here from everyone.
     
  13. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Apr 18, 2018

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    Mike / @MSNWatch would be the best to comment on this. About 3 or 4 years ago, there were 29mm Pie Pan dials available and floating around on eBay. The problem is a 14.9xx or a 16x.005 case requires a 27mm dial. Find out the exact size before agreeing to anything, and make sure you can return it if it doesn't fit.
     
  14. kusjoe78

    kusjoe78 Apr 18, 2018

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    @ulackfocus thank you so much on the info, I will get to my watchmaker and confirm on the diameter of the dial. If I may ask, do a 27mm pie pan dial in usable condition come up often? it seems rare on ebay and I don't really know of any other sources.
     
  15. X350 XJR

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Apr 18, 2018

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    How about a photo of the back of the dial, this could tell a lot.
     
  16. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Apr 18, 2018

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    No, and when they do they don't last long. There's a Pie Pan Hoover about an hour north of me who sucks them all up the second they get listed. :p
     
  17. kusjoe78

    kusjoe78 Apr 19, 2018

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    Haha bad news for people like me who really needs it now. ..however I can understand these actions as I have been looking and searching for one in a year...