Omega 33.3 Dial Help

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Juriat96

·Apr 30, 2021

Hi,

you all helped me already once before. Thanks very much for that.
What do you think about this dial. Is it a original one?


Thank you so much.

Jurist

 

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watchyouwant

·Apr 30, 2021

Very hard to say without having it in your hands..... My educated guess is original.the consistent execution of the complicated snake dials and other numerals point to an original. Kind regards. Achim

 

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CLA05

·Apr 30, 2021

I am no where near an expert and still learning but is the OMEGA text and emblem not crooked?
Maybe it’s just sort of a trick of the eye...

 

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Juriat96

·May 1, 2021

Thanks for the quick responses. I'm not really sure. It could be a trick.
And the colors in the right sub dial look a bit like hand painted. Is that possible?

 

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Juriat96

·May 1, 2021

I found a pretty similar one of Longines. The outer scales are exactly the same.

 

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Franco

·May 1, 2021

I think is a modern reproduction. Have only seen four of five 33.3 dials with the spiral, but in none of them the spiral touched the script Omega. Omega would not release a dial where the logo was “contaminated” by another script.

This one was sold by a shop in Munich, and it is may be the the same redialler, using in yous. the dies from that Longines at the periphery, plus the central ones from this.

Edited: May 1, 2021

 

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mac_omega

·May 1, 2021

Franco

I think is a modern reproduction. Have only seen four of five 33.3 dials with the spiral, but in none of them the spiral touched the script Omega. Omega would not release a dial where the logo was “contaminated” by another script.

This one was sold by a shop in Munich, and it is may be the the same redialler, using in yous. the dies from that Longines at the periphery, plus the central ones from this.

I concur - the one you show is awfully wrong

Here is mine for comparison (it is an original)

and here what is wrong:

And the one from the OP:

I have marked the crucial details.

 

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Juriat96

·May 1, 2021

Very interesting details!

 

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Servius

·May 1, 2021

And imho I don’t think that « Calculé par 1000 mètres » is correct in french, should be « Calculé pour 1000 mètres ».

 

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Oku

·May 1, 2021

Servius

And imho I don’t think that « Calculé par 1000 mètres » is correct in french, should be « Calculé pour 1000 mètres ».

That's not correct. Have a look at the Longines dial above which can be found in 13.33 and 13zn.

Concerning the OP's question: I concur with @Franco and @mac_omega. The original Omega enamel dials are different:

 

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Servius

·May 1, 2021

@Oku

Ok, I thought that the Longines wasn't correct neither.

 

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Oku

·May 1, 2021

Servius

@Oku

Ok, I thought that the Longines wasn't correct neither.

no, that one looks good.
Search for Longines 13.33 and you will find several of these dials.

 

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DirtyDozen12

·May 1, 2021

@Servius and @Oku

The Longines dial is not correct. The sub-dials are an obvious giveaway. Quite a few similar dials have appeared over the years.

 

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DirtyDozen12

·May 1, 2021

P.S. Here is a correct dial for comparison: https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/...ld-hinged-single-button-chronograph-122/34019

 

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fibonacci

·May 1, 2021

There is a thread on some similar dials at O&P: https://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=77504127

 

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Franco

·May 1, 2021

Lo stavo giusto per suggerire, there are some nice examples of correct dials

 

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watchyouwant

·May 1, 2021

Now, is the OP Omega dial an Enamel Dial ? I thought , it is a painted metal dial ? Pls. Confirm.

 

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Oku

·May 1, 2021

DirtyDozen12

@Servius and @Oku

The Longines dial is not correct. The sub-dials are an obvious giveaway. Quite a few similar dials have appeared over the years.

I don't want to derail from the thread, but I know that you are very knowledgeable, particularly when it comes to Longines. So it would be great to get some more info on this.
There are certainly some differences between the dial you posted and the one above:
- more straight versus more rolling numbers
- black versus red 12
- sub dials sunken on the one from Christies.
However, all this also holds for the dial of @Larry S 's 13.33 which I always assumed to be original.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/arrivals-what-did-you-buy-recently-watches.8930/page-564#post-985639

So can you tell me what I am missing?

 

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DirtyDozen12

·May 1, 2021

@Oku I began a thread on the Longines sub-forum.

 

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ConElPueblo

·May 1, 2021

Oku

I don't want to derail from the thread, but I know that you are very knowledgeable, particularly when it comes to Longines. So it would be great to get some more info on this.
There are certainly some differences between the dial you posted and the one above:
- more straight versus more rolling numbers
- black versus red 12
- sub dials sunken on the one from Christies.
However, all this also holds for the dial of @Larry S 's 13.33 which I always assumed to be original.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/arrivals-what-did-you-buy-recently-watches.8930/page-564#post-985639

So can you tell me what I am missing?

I think the orientation of the numbers in the minutes subdial is pretty telling too.