Omega 30T2 Repair: Sourcing Balance & Bridge Parts

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Hairsprings. I have about 4 bumpers what need hairsprings.

A lot depends on what the estate sellers find in old cache's. This week there is quite a bit listed. Problem is, that to get the part, one aquires the bulk of the parts watch and as noted before, the cycle continues.

I have a bid on the T30 parts. Doubt I will get them for a reasonable amount. Of the 5 items I bid on this weekend, I only won one auction. Which at least was for some 710 stems.

It has been about three to 6 months since stuff like this was listed. So there is a lot of feast and famine.

It is not really in Omega or other manufactures interest to keep the old stuff working. It really has no bearing on any modern post 1990s watches which are a completely different thing. Done with different computer aided manufacturing.

While I was unsuccessful cutting hands from razor blades. Tuna can steel cuts just fine on the laser. The laser also was able to cut the thicker X-acto knife blade, So this makes for a way to form some flat parts like set springs. I have a book titled 21st century watchmaking which details grinding out these parts. Curiously written by the same Father/Son team that wrote the chronograph repair correspondence course.

Outside hobby activity, it is not economical to spend time on repairing or replicating a consumable part.

There is also a tendency to forget that after WWII there were still 100s of Swiss watch manufactures. I think A. Schild 3 handers are just as easy to work on a T30. The quality may not be as consistent. Curiously some of these are listed as rolex compatible. Rolex at one point in it's history being more of a case finishing company than a movement maker.

As I often repeat the quote of my mentor, these 'generic.' Swiss watches, could last 500 years if maintained.
 
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Does Omega think that letting parts for this iconic cal. go extinct is a good idea?
Is it against their religion to make new runs of parts that they KNOW are in high demand for 30T movements?

Can high quality vintage watch repair really be that much of a threat to new watch sales?

Wouldn’t a company want the recognition and bragging rights that account-holding watchmakers can order critical core movement parts for a movement that their grandfathers wore? I’m talking about practical, everyday parts-replacing watchmaking. We know that any part for any movement can be made given enough time, money and effort.

(Stop me any time I’m wrong)They designed these movements. They own them. They own any tooling and equipment. If they discarded tooling and equipment, I can’t imagine anything dumber. Also dumb if they didn’t secure and retain any licensing rights to make these parts (doubtful).

I bet I can name 20 parts (or less) that would keep 30T families running for generations. We aren’t talking about obscure demand here. They made 3 million 30mm family movements although admittedly the later ones don’t share many parts with the early ones. It’s not as if they couldn’t legitimately charge premium money for these parts.
Recognition and bragging rights about being able to supply parts for 30mm movements? You must be joking.

Swatch cares about social media influencers. Collectors of obscure (and relatively inexpensive) vintage watches have a negligible impact on their bottom line.
 
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Hairsprings. I have about 4 bumpers what need hairsprings.

It is not really in Omega or other manufactures interest to keep the old stuff working.
Hairsprings are the tough item in all of these talks. One gets the impression that there were only a few hairspring manufacturers in the world ever during the vintage era and watch companies bought big lots of them if they weren't made in-house. I think Seiko makes their own, but that's Seiko.

Special alloys, strengths, dimensions, studs, collets, over-coils...... a person could go crazy with hairspring variants and hairsprings aren't profitable or easy to make in small runs. Seems like balance staffs could be made in smaller runs by aftermarket people for the few variations of staffs in the 30mm family, but New Old Stock staffs are still available for the time being and many of them seem to be NOS BestFit.

I can't imagine that repair of vintage watches impacts Omega's new sales much if at all.
Omega has the sweet spot figured out in all of this anyway. Diehard owners of vintage pieces can pay through the nose and have practically any watch restored in Bienne with their hoard of (or made from scratch) OEM parts while even professional watchmakers in the rest of the world squabble over the crumbs and 3/4 worn out parts from "parts movements". Worn escape wheels and worn out pallet jewels seem to be a problem with these 30T movements that had neglected servicing, too.
 
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Recognition and bragging rights about being able to supply parts for 30mm movements? You must be joking.
By vintage watch servicing standards, demand is particularly high for movement parts for this movement family. Probably the best mass produced Swiss hand crankers from the golden era. Threads like these about extinct parts aren't uncommon and the dwindling supply of parts are selling for crazy prices.

Maybe it's old news, but Archer answered the question. Omega is hoarding all of the parts.
 
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By vintage watch servicing standards, demand is particularly high for movement parts for this movement family. Probably the best mass produced Swiss hand crankers from the golden era. Threads like these about extinct parts aren't uncommon and the dwindling supply of parts are selling for crazy prices.
I agree with everything you wrote, but I just don't think that Swatch gives a fying fluck.
 
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Omega is hoarding all of the parts.
I have been collecting off and on for 30 years. So it is not just the manufacture hoarding parts or grabbing them when they come available.

A few watchmakers I have visited also hoard parts. So while the supply is dwindling. These do come up in estate lots from time to time. So there really is no motivation for creating alternate parts.

In actuality, the parts prices are still fairly low. Some sellers list things that sit unsold for months/years, Eventually someone will pay the top dollar or sesterti. I passed over a bunch of 34x bumper stuff this weekend and today. Other hoarders grabbed it. Looked like there were a few balance completes with hairspring.

More later in the week. Readers here are not likely to bid, as they expect the watchmaker to do this for them.

I have a bunch of wheels what could possibly be re-pivoted. Finding or making drills that small what can cut into the alloy is not worth the effort. Given time usually a wheel will show up in an estate auction.

Also have a bunch of pallet fork adjusting tools. Also some old Besfit or Sitze jewel assortments. A real time waster to fiddle with the micrometer. Such is actually a textbook image processing/part identification that any first year college engineering student could do. While the demo of an optical flow scanner was not successful on watch parts. It was optimized for automotive sized parts. The actual guts of the machine are open source as the patents are expired.

Which was the whole point of the patent. That anyone could use them once the generational monopoly ends. Yet now they are used to restrict trade. Speculators valuing a company by the patent portfolio. So investors do not want to fund something anyone could copy.

It really comes down to motivation. Meanwhile the hoarding continues.

As they used to say, 'There are plenty of fish in the sea.'
 
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I am fortunate that my daughter and her spouse share my love of vintage watches. I have one of their watches, an Omega WWW, in Rik Dietel 's capable hands for repair. It needs a balance and balance bridge, and he's not found what is needed. I'm attaching a photo he sent. Id appreciate any advice or suggestions that would enable us to bring this watch back to life. Thanks.

Could this help you? You'll need to follow the auction, which ends in 3 days
 
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Yesterday won a collection of scrap T30 parts. No balance bridge in the pictures. I think a later model. Listing says 1943. No midcase or dial either.

So this material is out there. One has to keep an active daily and sometimes hourly search going.

I was thinking the OP got the watch back with a balance staff, I guess that was actually @sathomasga who got the watch back.