Omega 2808 advice...

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SPIGGOTT

·Oct 4, 2020

Hi everyone,

just bought this Omega 2808-3 and I am trying to check authenticity.

I have found some postings and images for 2808-1 with cal 30T2 and 266, but can not find any info on the 2808-3.

According to movement serial it’s a late 1950 which is correct for model.

Should the crown and crystal be signed?

thanks

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padders

·Oct 4, 2020·Oooo subtitles!

I’m no expert on that model but the split second track looks very wrong on a sub second dial watch so I vote redial.

The movement serial being 13.3m would be dated to the early 1950s, circa 1952-3.

Yes I would expect a signed crown but not necessarily signed crystal at that age.

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mac_omega

·Oct 4, 2020

padders

but the split second track looks very wrong on a sub second dial

Not necessarily so. These 1/5th seconds tracks are uncommon on subsec-watches but they do exist original from the factory.
I have even found them on 30T2Rg chronometre dials when I researched for my book.
Uncommon but legitimate.

Well, the dial of the OP is most likely a re-dial but for other reasons. One of them is the odd sub second track.

 

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padders

·Oct 4, 2020·Oooo subtitles!

Yeah but what do you know. It’s not like you wrote the book on them.

Oh. Right.

 

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·Oct 4, 2020

Thanks for the replies.

The watch is being sold by a watch shop in London. The are offering 6 months warranty, full service and guarantee of authenticity or your money back.

My only concerns were 1/5th split and for a 2808 the second dial at 6 is smaller than others I have seen. The hands are correct and right for the dial. But the million dollar question is, is the dial correct. It’s is not a redial, so could only be from another vintage watch.

thx

 

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gatorcpa

·Oct 4, 2020·ΩF InvestiGator

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It’s is not a redial

Really? How do you know?

I am wary of any 60+ year old dial that does not have patina. These watches were not waterproof and Omega used natural lacquers that yellow with age.

IMO, this is a very nicely done redial.
gatorcpa

PS - Crown should be signed. Crystal maybe.

 

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Spruce

·Oct 4, 2020·Sunburst dial fan

Redial or not, it’s a nice looking piece of wrist candy

 

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·Oct 4, 2020

gatorcpa

Really? How do you know?

I am wary of any 60+ year old dial that does not have patina. These watches were not waterproof and Omega used natural lacquers that yellow with age.

IMO, this is a very nicely done redial.
gatorcpa

PS - Crown should be signed. Crystal maybe.

the only other one I have found 2808-3 in gold does not have a signed crown.

 

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gatorcpa

·Oct 4, 2020·ΩF InvestiGator

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the only other one I have found 2808-3 in gold does not have a signed crown.

Looks like you’ve made up your mind.

I’m out.
gatorcpa

 

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Rman

·Oct 4, 2020

You really should provide some macro images of the dial if you want an accurate assessment, but at a glance i would agree with Gator, redial.

Sub-second printing is drawing my attention as well as how the seconds track crowds the raised numerals.

 

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padders

·Oct 4, 2020·Oooo subtitles!

And now the initial picture disappears. Curiouser and curiouser. I guess he didn't get the answer he was hoping for.

 

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Rman

·Oct 4, 2020

Normally i wouldnt do this but its quite annoying when people come to OF to do the pump and dump and dissapear with their images without so much as a thank you. So you’re welcome.

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Spruce

·Oct 4, 2020·Sunburst dial fan

Rman

Normally i wouldnt do this but its quite annoying when people come to OF to do the pump and dump and dissapear with their images without so much as a thank you. So you’re welcome.

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Well done

 

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mac_omega

·Oct 4, 2020

padders

but the split second track looks very wrong on a sub second dial watch

How goes the saying? A photo or it did not happen...

Here is a CK 2181 out of my collection with original dial which shows the 1/5th-second-track:

It is a large watch at 37,5 mm with a cal 30 T2 inside (unfortunately still with a wrong replacement crown...)

I think it was only a matter of design to print this additional second track

enjoy

 

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SPIGGOTT

·Oct 4, 2020

Thanks for all the info.

I was asked to remove images until I had completed the purchased the watch.

thanks to all your advice I have now completed purchase and added more photos.

 

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Dr No

·Oct 4, 2020

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Thanks for all the info.

I was asked to remove images until I had completed the purchased the watch.

thanks to all your advice I have now completed purchase and added more photos.

Ref 2808 from AJTT:

My sense is the dial of yours is refinished, and that the seconds hand and crown have been replaced.

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hoipolloi

·Oct 4, 2020

gatorcpa

Looks like you’ve made up your mind.

I’m out.
gatorcpa

Now, I am in 😁

Dial looks refinished to me.

Hoi.

 

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gatorcpa

·Oct 4, 2020·ΩF InvestiGator

hoipolloi

Now, I am in 😁

Tag team! 😜
gatorcpa

 

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Sherbie

·Oct 4, 2020

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Thanks for all the info.

I was asked to remove images until I had completed the purchased the watch.

thanks to all your advice I have now completed purchase and added more photos.

Why were you asked to remove photos, and by whom?

was the seller trying to hide something?

 

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watchyouwant

·Oct 4, 2020

Yes, repainted. If you like repainted, wear it with pride. Have seen worse repaints... Once you want to sell it, everything starts again. Kind regards. Achim