omega 2151/1, missing pallet fork bridge jewel ?

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Hello there members , just opened it this omega to do some oiling and noticed something curious , looks like the jewel on pallet fork bridge is missing or it is a clear one?馃槉馃檭 the watch runs , little fast but not too bad , has 30T2 movement in it, is this actually the real ref# 2151/1 , a beautiful salmon dial , not sure if original , asking for your attention and assessment/ opinion, thank you , good day, kazd
 
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A simple solution. A jewel assortment and a Seitz jewelling tool.
 
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Looks clear as the pinion is centred
Thank you god your reply, I鈥檓 here now sitting over it with 10x loupe trying to figure this out, and yes staff is centered , watch runs ,but now I just noticed , the balance wheel is cracked by the cross arm , I don鈥檛 know what to do with this , it runs , runs , and I made a miss reading the ref# this is 2181/1 not 2151/1
Thank you for opinion , this is first that I would see translucent jewel , kazd
 
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Thank you , that surely would be the solution , if the jewel is not translucent, but for one jewel repair, not sure if investing in the tool you mention is worth it, a watchmaker maybe simpler choice , then again me going through all the collection and finding some pieces need service , probably will look into possibly acquiring the basic equipment needed, if I have to service 10 watches , each costing probably $300-500 , so have to think about this wisely , thank you again,kazd
 
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I just noticed , the balance wheel is cracked by the cross arm
Are you sure it's not simply a split (temperature compensated) balance wheel?
 
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Are you sure it's not simply a split (temperature compensated) balance wheel?
Hello there, ah I was contemplating the same think , it very maybe that this is split wheel as you describe , if this is the case then no problem here, thank you , no other place for expert advise than OF , love you guys , still thinking about this mysteries jewel that alludes my mind , a clear , translucent jewel ? thanks again, good day, kazd
 
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Hello there, ah I was contemplating the same think , it very maybe that this is split wheel as you describe , if this is the case then no problem here, thank you , no other place for expert advise than OF , love you guys , still thinking about this mysteries jewel that alludes my mind , a clear , translucent jewel ? thanks again, good day, kazd
hello there again, I鈥檓 was doing some research on my 30t2 split balance wheel and this is what I found out , it is perfectly normal for this old movements, thank you soo very much for your suggestion, I鈥檓 including pics of the search , good day , kazd
 
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still thinking about this mysteries jewel that alludes my mind
There is no mystery.
If the jewel is original to the movement, which dates to 1944, the world had a lot more to think about than matching jewel colours.
Watch jewels were grown from various chemicals and some batches may have been pinker, or even clearer than others.
A simple test is to gently use a very fine wire to move the pallet so that you can see if the pivot just moves slightly, or moves right to the edge of the hole.
 
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A simple solution. A jewel assortment and a Seitz jewelling tool.
Hello there and good morning, this eluding think about the jewel on my 30t2 , I couldn鈥檛 stop searching , so this is what I found out I鈥檓 including pic of my search, I seams that omega used clear jewels on these movements on the pallet fork bridge especially , and I also found out that the balance wheel in not broken , or is simply a split type , ( temperature compensating ) as one member suggested , thank you guys , couldn鈥檛 enjoy this hobby without your help , good day to all . Kazd
 
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It would be better if you reviewed your A.I. queries and then responded here in plain text as to what you have deduced.

Giant screen dumps of A.I. slop are irritating to me.
 
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It would be better if you reviewed your A.I. queries and then responded here in plain text as to what you have deduced.

Giant screen dumps of A.I. slop are irritating to me.
100%

AI is fine as a tool, but you have to check the sources.
 
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It would be better if you reviewed your A.I. queries and then responded here in plain text as to what you have deduced.

Giant screen dumps of A.I. slop are irritating to me.
hello and sorry for the irritation , will do as you indicate, good day , kazd , at least I鈥檓 at ease knowing what I鈥檓 looking at ,
 
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Clear jewels are pretty common. Longines used to use them a lot, basically my least favorite part about working on older Longines. I have a longines I just finished on my bench that used clear CAP jewels. Finding jewels in the epilame is hard enough AS IS, but even harder when they are clear!

On a previous watch I did, I lost a cap jewel and spent an hour looking for it because it got stuck to the tip of the tweezers I was using. It hit the light JUUUST right that I could only see it from a certain angle.


And yes, the split in the balance wheel is intentional and common.

You DO once again have a hairspring problem though. Magnetized, dirty, or wrong in some way, it needs help. Rest of the movement is pretty filthy and needs a clean ASAP too though.
 
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There's nothing wrong with the movement - what you are seeing is perfectly normal and expected.
 
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There's nothing wrong with the movement - what you are seeing is perfectly normal and expected.
I think 'nothing' isn't accurate there, but at least the pallet fork jewel/balance wheel are normal 馃榾
 
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Clear jewels are pretty common. Longines used to use them a lot, basically my least favorite part about working on older Longines. I have a longines I just finished on my bench that used clear CAP jewels. Finding jewels in the epilame is hard enough AS IS, but even harder when they are clear!

On a previous watch I did, I lost a cap jewel and spent an hour looking for it because it got stuck to the tip of the tweezers I was using. It hit the light JUUUST right that I could only see it from a certain angle.


And yes, the split in the balance wheel is intentional and common.

You DO once again have a hairspring problem though. Magnetized, dirty, or wrong in some way, it needs help. Rest of the movement is pretty filthy and needs a clean ASAP too though.
hello and you are right spot on 馃憤 the movement really, desperately needs attention , and yes the hair spring is probably the suspect to attend as it runs fast , and stops intermittently, thank you for your advise , I just took this one out of my treasure drawer , kept it because of the gorgeous salmon dial , hopefully it鈥檚 original or well redialed , and now , eases my worry about the split balance wheel , and the clear jewel, I鈥檝e learn so much on this one , thanks to you guys, will do the demagnetizing , hope it helps as it did on the 286 that runs exceptionally well for a week or so , thanks again,will update on my progress , good day, kazd