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  1. brownwld Oct 24, 2017

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    Hi,

    I could buy a 145.022-74, serviced in Switzerland and it makes +3s/day
    Original bracelet 1171/633
    It has extract of the archives - produced March 19, 1971 but no box or papers.
    All parts correct, overall condition is really nice.

    Price to negotiate 4700Eur

    What do you think?
    Thanks,
    Jakub
     
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  2. ck77 Oct 24, 2017

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    With the serial and production date, it should be a 1450.22-69 instead of 74.
    Have you seen the backcase stamp? If yes, it could be a swapped caseback.
     
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  3. brownwld Oct 24, 2017

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    The caliber was made in March 1971, but I guess the whole watch was assembled some year later - that is why 145.022-74 on the caseback.

    What do you think about the price?
     
  4. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Oct 24, 2017

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    No, the watch was produced in March 1971 with a movement number that indicates it should be a 145.022-69 Early 1971 production date is also indicative of a 69.
     
  5. mr_yossarian Oct 24, 2017

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    That's in my opinion more see what you want to see rather than see what it most likely is. And 4,7k Euro for a '74 is quite ambitious anyways.EDIT: the bezel is a current replacement too, not a DNN

    Well, judging it by the dial it's not a '71 or '69. But the production date tells a different story. Maybe it was a '71 or '69 before the current dial and caseback came on.
     
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  6. Davidt Oct 24, 2017

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    Part -74 (dial, bracelet and case back) part -69 (movement) and part modern (bezel).

    Pass.
     
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  7. brownwld Oct 24, 2017

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  8. gdupree Oct 24, 2017

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    Agreeing with the above here.

    Technically, by all that we can actually see in this photo, it could be a -69 or -74 that has had the dial replaced for a -74 or -76, and the bezel replaced with a modern one... New bezel, new hands, -74/-76 dial, -74 case back (allegedly), and -69/-71 movement. In terms of originality, its basically Frankenstein.

    Sorry to down it, OP! But that's why ya asked :)
     
  9. trackpad Oct 24, 2017

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    In summary, do not buy this watch. In any case, not anywhere close to that price.

    Good you asked!
     
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  10. mr_yossarian Oct 24, 2017

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  11. brownwld Oct 24, 2017

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    Thanks guys!

    I’m glad I asked, I informed the seller about this, I will see what he says :)
    Obviously i have to buy the Moonwach Only :)

    Thanks once again OF
     
  12. ATWG Oct 24, 2017

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    For future reference, I highly recommend reading up/researching on speedmaster101.com, lots of valuable information with pricing guide as well.
     
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  13. gdupree Oct 24, 2017

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    It's an invaluable resource. You'll save much more by knowing your s*** when buying than you spent on the book (plus its just so cool).

    The E-book version with the identification is a great quick reference as well, but can't replace all of the info in the full book.
     
  14. ck77 Oct 24, 2017

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    No worries OP, there are plenty -69, -71, -74 around. Be patient and you will get a nice one.
     
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