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OMEGA 1125/560 FOIS Bracelet - Fake

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JimInOz JimInOz
The emblem is actually stamped.
You can see the reverse imprint on the underside.

If it's stamped the imprint on the front is very shallow and unlike any other stamped Omega symbol on similar bracelets. That's also why it more likely appears to be "etched" as the stamping isn't that proud.

I honestly don't see any reverse imprint on the underside.

JimInOz JimInOz
And while the text and symbol are laser etched, they seem to be of a higher quality than I've seen on most fake Ω bracelets.
I've handled and seen many aftermarket / fake Omega items with etching and text that's nicer than Omega's so that point is neither here nor there. The easiest way to tell fake from authentic is fit and finish, however since none of us except the OP can handle and pore over every surface of this bracelet the final determination is up in the air.

I'm not saying this is 100% a fake, just that based off the photos, available pictorial evidence and my own experiences I'd be wary of the provenance. Since we don't know who the seller is we can't fully judge their scruples. A pic of the packaging that the bracelet came in will go a long way in terms of getting a final answer, as the people who craft the hard items are usually more skilled than those who craft the paper and packaging when it comes to aftermarket/fake stuff.

Also, asking for an authenticity check from an AD or OB is a total crapshoot. A high percentage of the assistants won't have extensive knowledge of older items and accessories since there's a good amount of turnover in retail.
 
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I would also say genuine. Though the photo is fuzzy, the links themselves seem very well made and finished, with (what appear to be) nicely beveled edges.

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yinzerniner yinzerniner
. A pic of the packaging that the bracelet came in will go a long way in terms of getting a final answer, as the people who craft the hard items are usually more skilled than those who craft the paper and packaging when it comes to aftermarket/fake stuff.

Al.

Right, I'll post a picture of the packaging in the morning - I stupidly cut through it with a pair of scissors but I still have all the pieces. I must say the packaging was very convincing, although OMEGA was not written in red font as I have seen on most other bracelets. I'll also post some more close ups of the back of the the clasp and the sides of the links.

Only reason I wont post the seller is simply because I dont want to be done for libel.

What a great community!
 
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Also does anybody have a mass (grams) for the 1125 bracelet I could compare to? Seems to a novice like me that it would be a good way of determining if its genuine?
 
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It seems to me that Omega has probably had a huge increase in demand for the 1125 and simply had to make new ones that differ from existing stock.
 
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Right, I'll post a picture of the packaging in the morning - I stupidly cut through it with a pair of scissors but I still have all the pieces. I must say the packaging was very convincing, although OMEGA was not written in red font as I have seen on most other bracelets.

I don't see anything yet that clearly tells me this is a fake bracelet. As for the packaging it would most likely look like this:



You can tell how "new" the bracelet is by the date code on the package. For this 1171 it was made the 20th week of 2018, so it's pretty fresh.

Cheers, Al
 
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Hello everybody!

Good news. I took the bracelet to an omega authorised service centre and he very kindly offered to assess its genuinity.

It is 100% genuine! I overpayed slightly (the 1125 can apparently be bought direct from omega for £325). The logo has in fact been stamped and the etching on the reverse of the clasp is also genuine.

I want to thank you all for your help and opinions on this matter. Congratulations to those of you who assessed it as genuine!

Cheers
 
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I have a 1970s 1125, the quality isn't fantastic, clearly it never was. Where was yours from by the way?
 
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padders padders
I have a 1970s 1125, the quality isn't fantastic, clearly it never was. Where was yours from by the way?
Bought it from a website called Swisswatchspares
 
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Umm well known for repackaging fakes? That is the first I have heard of that claim. Post some pictures of your item to back it up, if you are right the forum will thank you for it. I am no fan of SLE or SWS (same company) since he is a scalper and hoovered up parts when the restrictions came in making the problem worse, but to go round the forum calling him a faker requires proof on your part.

If you read back, the genuine 1175 is of pretty crappy quality and may have in fact been made in China for all I know. I can see how a genuine one could fail too.

Put your money where your mouth is or wind your neck in.
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padders
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And the libel court might be yours unless you are prepared to back up your claims. If you are right you would be doing the forum a service in making it known but you need to back it up, since for all we know you are just a competing supplier. If there are Google hits to similar claims, post them and let us decide. Post the pics of your broken bracelet so we can compare to ones sourced from a dealer.

My name is Dave by the way so your assumption is wrong. Were I John would I have posted multiple times over the years that you would have to be an idiot to pay SWS £550 for an 1125 or 1171 bracelet which you can walk into a Boutique or dealer and pay £350 for? Take a look at the other thread you spammed, I am on there letting people know.

If you are one of those customers who now feels a bit silly that they overpaid and is lashing out, I can understand that, but when you make claims like that, be prepared to back them up.
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Archer
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This is the photo you posted, that I have cropped and brightened. The red arrow points to one of the looped areas that simply wasn't crimped enough, so the spring bar slipped out. Not a failure, but certainly a defect.

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A watchmaker would have spotted this and could fix it in about 5 seconds.

I have no opinion on the seller, but unless the watchmaker and the boutique you dealt with are very experienced in vintage watches (and specifically Omega bracelets) I would take their opinions with a very large grain of salt. Stuff like this is not unusual on genuine Omega bracelets (I know, as I buy a lot of them from Omega).

Cheers, Al
 
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This is the photo you posted, that I have cropped and brightened. The red arrow points to one of the looped areas that simply wasn't crimped enough, so the spring bar slipped out. Not a failure, but certainly a defect.

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A watchmaker would have spotted this and could fix it in about 5 seconds.

I have no opinion on the seller, but unless the watchmaker and the boutique you dealt with are very experienced in vintage watches (and specifically Omega bracelets) I would take their opinions with a very large grain of salt. Stuff like this is not unusual on genuine Omega bracelets (I know, as I buy a lot of them from Omega).

Cheers, Al

As you know the 1125 is a vintage Omega bracelet and not made very well which is why I even describe them as lightweight vintage bracelets as they are nothing like the modern ones made for Omega. I've never really had any issue with any vintage bracelet I've sold including the 1171 which are popular,,, however this chap must wear his bracelet tight as he stated the clasp opened up causing it to fall, not once but twice. I just refunded him on both bracelets as he seemed like a customer who would never be happy and he stated to me he thought they were fake which is totally untrue.
I sent him a lengthy reply defending myself and thought that was it,,, so I'm very surprised to read all his post on here stating I sell fake items and it's all over the internet, plus I repackage items etc etc.

I'd love to see any evidence he had of me buying Chinese fakes, repackaging and the so called suppliers when all my stock came from Swatch Group and I've never ever sold anything counterfeit?
I even used to be the Omega specialist for ebay worldwide and used to remove counterfeit items listings for them but have it up as a bad job as most of the stuff on ebay was counterfeit.
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