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Older Speedmasters with Recessed Subdials at 42mm?

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I am interested in knowing if there are past models of the Speedmaster Moonwatch with recessed subdials--unlike the contemporary models at 42mm (similar to current '57 trilogy (38.6mm) or First in Space (39.7mm)?

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Like this? 145.022-76

Every speed pro since 1957....
 
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Thanks for your response. I am new to the Speedy game but have looked at the line at Omega boutique. See pic below. No subdials, correct?


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TO clarify, I want to purchase a Speedy. I like the current iterations, but love the look of the First In Space currently out now much more--the subdials and contrasts as I alluded to above. Its smaller than I prefer given the size of my wrist.

I have a little sense of the history of the watch, but I am interested in knowing if a past version, not rare to the point the cost is prohibitive, or even versions out of production in the last decade, that are a close proxy of 2019 variation. The pic above gets at it, yes.
 
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When you go back over the years with Speedmasters, there's a bit more involved than just the recess in the subdials. The older stepped dials give more of a 3D appearance.

http://speedmaster101.com/blog/identifying-an-861-service-dial/

This is further emphasised by the way the hour indices make their way over the step in the dial. Add to that the slightly raised applied metal logo, of an older 321 Speedmaster and you get a bit of 'raised relief'.
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Yes. Its the step between the minute track and the central plate. Why did Omega nix it? And are the earlier 861 models the only ones with it, ie, anything released more recently in limited fashion beyond what I mentioned above?
 
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Yes. Its the step between the minute track and the central plate. Why did Omega nix it? And are the earlier 861 models the only ones with it, ie, anything released more recently in limited fashion beyond what I mentioned above?

I don’t know why Omega nixed it, but the step is generally found on 145.022-71 and older Speedmasters. I’ve heard the step may show up on the 145.022-74 Speedmasters too, but I’ve never had one to check.

Note that some of the very very early Speedmasters were missing the step too.
 
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I don’t know why Omega nixed it, but the step is generally found on 145.022-71 and older Speedmasters. I’ve heard the step may show up on the 145.022-74 Speedmasters too, but I’ve never had one to check.
My 3592.50 Limited Edition made for the Italian Market, born in 1974, has recessed sub dials.

I know: No pics or it didn't happen 🤦 Hopefully, one of these days I'll learn how to post some scan 🤨
 
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They all have recessed subdials, but the step went out after the 145.022-71
 
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Exactly what @abrod520 said.

Prior to the early 70's they had a step inside the minute track (part from very early models with a dome dial), but all have recessed Sub dials, although it's not quite as pronounced on ref -74 onwards.
 
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I would like to tap the wisdom of the hive if I may. If I go with a FOIS and replace the strap with custom one made for a deployment strap can one rely on a seller like this: https://www.ebay.com/c/2255947462
What is odd to me--I called Omega and they are selling for $250. Internet sellers are a hundred over that price. Same serial #.
 
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If I go with a FOIS and replace the strap with custom one made for a deployment strap can one rely on a seller like this:
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I called Omega and they are selling for $250. Internet sellers are a hundred over that price. Same serial #.
That makes it easy. Why even deal with an Ebay seller if Omega is less expensive? Buy from Omega.
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@Pvt-Public--Ebay is $200.
Why would Omega be less expensive than several of the Internet sellers? Luxe boutique undercuts the aftermarket pros? Don't get it
 
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Plenty of parts such as pushers, clasps, bracelets etc sell for more on eBay than Omega sells them for.

Obviously the average guy in the street can't buy parts such as pushers anymore, but until a couple of years ago, even the parts houses sold them cheaper than eBay.

I assume plenty of people assume eBay is cheaper and just don't bother checking.
 
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@Brad F
Reread what you wrote. You said Omega was $250 And internet sellers are a hundred over that.
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I called Omega and they are selling for $250. Internet sellers are a hundred over that price. Same serial #.
It would seem strange to me too, but......you wrote it, NOT me.
 
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