NTTD 007 Titanium Clasp Jam /AntiGlare problems on the Dome

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Hello Omega Community,

I have recently acquired the 007 NTTD from an Jewler store in Florida that is the largest Omega AD in the east . I have had some problems with the wearability and visibility on this particular watch.

issue #1 the bracelet gets stuck into the clasp ond jams against the clasp when selecting hole number 4. Every time this occurs, I have to finger it out of the clasp lip to be able to undo the watch from my wrist ( Omega Botique of Scottsdale offered hypothetical workaround that if I had purchased the watch directly from them , then maybe they would have realized the issue and give me an smaller bracelet so that the jamming would not occur ) . The regular length of the V2 titanium bracelet is perfectly fine and I do not accept this work around or a solution even if offered . Question is what went wrong during quality control and design audits.. if the bracelet was 1mm longer or shorter, the jamming would not have occurred when hole 4 is selected.

issue #2 the anti glare brushing on the dome makes the dial invisible in certain angles of sun light.

issue #3 , the ceramic rotor is quite noisy , noisier than my Mark II, my 60th, my regular 300 seamaster and list goes on.

issue #4, least important , as it is the Same behavior across all my 300m seamasters. And that is the Bezel having a small room to wobble before the next click. This feels like bezel is not as secure but it is the same across all 300 m seamasters.

also, the bezel on 300m watches are hard to get a good grip on. Not ideal for a dive watch. The 600m planet ocean Oreo does not have this problem.

As an engineer, I believe these are all design flaws that need to be addressed . Please provide your feedback on the above issues.
 
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As an engineer, I believe these are all design flaws that need to be addressed . Please provide your feedback on the above issues.
Have you adressed this with Omega as they are the designer and manufacturer?
 
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issue #2 the anti glare brushing on the dome makes the dial invisible in certain angles of sun light.
This watch has anti‑reflective treatment only inside and not outside. This is one of the reasons why I did not buy this watch.
 
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If you search here on NTTD you will see that there are existing threads discussing nearly every point you make above, the poor bracelet design, the loose bezel etc. Personally I hate external anti glare coated crystals as it is very vulnerable to damage so there my advice would be to embrace the lack of it, unless you like the expense of replacing crystals regularly. The domed crystal shape on the NTTD is one of its better features.

The NTTD for all its novelty and charm has issues, many of which aren’t present in the other versions (but are perpetuated in the steel Bond 60th version). I moved mine on but still think the standard watch does a decent job.
 
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First world problems, my friend. You can always sell the watch and buy something else that makes you happy. As for the lack of AR coating on the exterior of the crystal, I completely agree with padders - exterior AR coating is vulnerable to scratches which are unsightly and can’t be fixed other than by either removing the coating entirely or replacing the sapphire crystal.
 
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Hello Omega Community,

I have recently acquired the 007 NTTD from an Jewler store in Florida that is the largest Omega AD in the east . I have had some problems with the wearability and visibility on this particular watch.

issue #1 the bracelet gets stuck into the clasp ond jams against the clasp when selecting hole number 4. Every time this occurs, I have to finger it out of the clasp lip to be able to undo the watch from my wrist ( Omega Botique of Scottsdale offered hypothetical workaround that if I had purchased the watch directly from them , then maybe they would have realized the issue and give me an smaller bracelet so that the jamming would not occur ) . The regular length of the V2 titanium bracelet is perfectly fine and I do not accept this work around or a solution even if offered . Question is what went wrong during quality control and design audits.. if the bracelet was 1mm longer or shorter, the jamming would not have occurred when hole 4 is selected.

issue #2 the anti glare brushing on the dome makes the dial invisible in certain angles of sun light.

issue #3 , the ceramic rotor is quite noisy , noisier than my Mark II, my 60th, my regular 300 seamaster and list goes on.

issue #4, least important , as it is the Same behavior across all my 300m seamasters. And that is the Bezel having a small room to wobble before the next click. This feels like bezel is not as secure but it is the same across all 300 m seamasters.

also, the bezel on 300m watches are hard to get a good grip on. Not ideal for a dive watch. The 600m planet ocean Oreo does not have this problem.

issue #5 I am an engineer, I believe these are all design flaws that need to be addressed . Please provide your feedback on the above issues.
FIFY

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I hated the lack of AR so much on this watch. The matte dial & drab lume just disappear completely in over 50% of conditions, which doesn't happen to regular Seamaster 300M models with the polished hardware and ceramic dials.
I couldn't stand it and sold the watch on in under a week, ended up later on with a standard black 300M which is a truly excellent watch.
 
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I sold mine too. The first reason was the lack of readability. Also when the sun is dark and rooms are darker you can't read the time. As a dive watch absolutely not usable. Otherwise I loved it.

Best Alex
 
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I never got a NTTD Seamaster mainly because the bracelet was unwearable. All of the other issues never bothered me but that one thing. Not like I'm actually diving with the watch, if I had trouble with the glare I couldn't move my wrist to a slightly different angle to read the time, or noisy rotor made a difference to me. All of that could be overlooked but the horrible bracelet design was just too much for me.

I could always go for the NATO version but I don't like NATO straps.
 
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Have you adressed this with Omega as they are the designer and manufacturer?

I have , been told nothing can be done.
 
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Wierd I thought they had nailed the external AR coating by the end of the first Gen PO’s. The early ones had issues but later ones are invisible and have no issues.
 
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For sake of a contrasting opinion for others thinking about this watch who come upon this thread, I've had this watch since July and none of the aforementioned issues have bothered me much.
 
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issue #1 the bracelet gets stuck into the clasp ond jams against the clasp when selecting hole number 4. Every time this occurs, I have to finger it out of the clasp lip to be able to undo the watch from my wrist ( Omega Botique of Scottsdale offered hypothetical workaround that if I had purchased the watch directly from them , then maybe they would have realized the issue and give me an smaller bracelet so that the jamming would not occur ) . The regular length of the V2 titanium bracelet is perfectly fine and I do not accept this work around or a solution even if offered . Question is what went wrong during quality control and design audits.. if the bracelet was 1mm longer or shorter, the jamming would not have occurred when hole 4 is selected.
Had the same issue with hole 4 from 6 o'clock. Really dumb design that they didn't test, though it was probably rooted from them reinforcing the spring bar area from the V1 of the bracelet and not testing it out after. If you open it quick enough, it will push the locking flap open, the bracelet slides out, then your whole watch will fall on the floor. Only fix is getting the short version or a different strap.




issue #2 the anti glare brushing on the dome makes the dial invisible in certain angles of sun light.
It's not the AR coating, it's the nature of domed sapphire crystals, which is why they are relatively rare on watches. Using a flat sapphire crystal is how Rolex got away with not using AR coating for decades until recently.

issue #3 , the ceramic rotor is quite noisy , noisier than my Mark II, my 60th, my regular 300 seamaster and list goes on.
Normal for the ball bearing rotor. It's weird because the more expensive 8500/8900 have the rotor sitting on a jewel and is completely silent, but the even-more-expensive 9300/9900 chronographs are back to using the noisy ball bearings

issue #4, least important , as it is the Same behavior across all my 300m seamasters. And that is the Bezel having a small room to wobble before the next click. This feels like bezel is not as secure but it is the same across all 300 m seamasters.
Normal due to the nature of the bezel click spring. My ceramic wave 8800 Seamasters felt solid and always clicked nicely. The NTTD, though, kept allowing one or two clockwise clicks of the bezel. Something about that design is worse than the standard SMP.

also, the bezel on 300m watches are hard to get a good grip on. Not ideal for a dive watch. The 600m planet ocean Oreo does not have this problem.
Visual design choice. Form over function and that's how it is for the SMP.


I had mostly the same negative experience with the details of the watch as you. Most disappointing was that I expected the mesh to be conforming and comfortable like most mesh straps, but it was too stiff and unforgiving. I even took it to the beach one summer but didn't go as far in as I usually do because that bracelet for some reason did not inspire confidence.




After the honeymoon period was over and the "post-nut clarity" set in, I sold it and ended up buying a Ti Planet Ocean 42mm and haven't looked back. Fixed every issue I had 😀

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Thank you , it’s seems like I’m not in alone on this , and for better or worse, that is somewhat pacifying ? 😀

the quick undo of the clasp is a good trick to over come this problem, I like that !



Had the same issue with hole 4 from 6 o'clock. Really dumb design that they didn't test, though it was probably rooted from them reinforcing the spring bar area from the V1 of the bracelet and not testing it out after. If you open it quick enough, it will push the locking flap open, the bracelet slides out, then your whole watch will fall on the floor. Only fix is getting the short version or a different strap.





It's not the AR coating, it's the nature of domed sapphire crystals, which is why they are relatively rare on watches. Using a flat sapphire crystal is how Rolex got away with not using AR coating for decades until recently.


Normal for the ball bearing rotor. It's weird because the more expensive 8500/8900 have the rotor sitting on a jewel and is completely silent, but the even-more-expensive 9300/9900 chronographs are back to using the noisy ball bearings


Normal due to the nature of the bezel click spring. My ceramic wave 8800 Seamasters felt solid and always clicked nicely. The NTTD, though, kept allowing one or two clockwise clicks of the bezel. Something about that design is worse than the standard SMP.


Visual design choice. Form over function and that's how it is for the SMP.


I had mostly the same negative experience with the details of the watch as you. Most disappointing was that I expected the mesh to be conforming and comfortable like most mesh straps, but it was too stiff and unforgiving. I even took it to the beach one summer but didn't go as far in as I usually do because that bracelet for some reason did not inspire confidence.




After the honeymoon period was over and the "post-nut clarity" set in, I sold it and ended up buying a Ti Planet Ocean 42mm and haven't looked back. Fixed every issue I had 😀

 
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Very sorry to hear your problems - of all the issues you listed, I think the bracelet issue will be the most bugging one for you. The others are design/aesthetic related features and not so much of an issue for me personally.

For what's it worth, I have had this watch for nearly two years now - I do always come back to it as a daily watch as I do not really need to “baby” it, and personally still like the unique look. For summers I change to the nato.

I wore this to my recent trip recently:


sometimes I also enjoy it under different lightings:

 
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Had the same issue with hole 4 from 6 o'clock. Really dumb design that they didn't test, though it was probably rooted from them reinforcing the spring bar area from the V1 of the bracelet and not testing it out after. If you open it quick enough, it will push the locking flap open, the bracelet slides out, then your whole watch will fall on the floor. Only fix is getting the short version or a different strap.

Interesting.. went to grab my Bond 60th after seeing this and can confirm its not an issue on the steel mesh bracelet. So I guess Omega realized their mistake and fixed it.
 
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It's not the AR coating, it's the nature of domed sapphire crystals, which is why they are relatively rare on watches. Using a flat sapphire crystal is how Rolex got away with not using AR coating for decades until recently.

I own two Seamaster heritages with domed crystals, and neither has an issue with the dial vanishing totally or becoming illegible at different angles....
 
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Selling as an option does not justify a Titan in watch making like Omega to overlook these issue , nor it would justify the 10k price + tax = 11k,
Thankfully I did not pay full price for this piece.

yes , you can always sell with big loss - closing eyes on root cause is not a solution .

First world problems, my friend. You can always sell the watch and buy something else that makes you happy. As for the lack of AR coating on the exterior of the crystal, I completely agree with padders - exterior AR coating is vulnerable to scratches which are unsightly and can’t be fixed other than by either removing the coating entirely or replacing the sapphire crystal.
 
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Here is an example of AR coating , making the dial and movement unreadable … this occurs at specific angles , and only in sun lights , UV light or flash light won’t trigger it much. So that’s why AD won’t be able to replicate it.