non-dauphine hands on ref 2620?

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Sorry Som, you misinterpreted me. I meant that the print looked far to new to be original

My apologies Martin, didn't realize the mix up. It seems to me, it could just be a very well preserved dial. I'll post a third example which many of our members here on the forum felt to be an original dial given the font type as well as the crisp finishing. While this example has a different font set, and a different layout, the text crispness and clarity are very similar to the above posted jumbos.

I think given all the evidence, I have to respectfully disagree. Herein is the fun and interesting part of our hobby 馃榾. Differing opinions are fun to discuss and also point to the truth that it can be very difficult to be sure if there has been a redial or not. So far in all the jumbos I have seen, I find that finding similar patterns in text font type, dial layout, and crispness are the best indicators for originality. The redials that I have come across don't stand the test of clarity on macro photography and the flaws in the handiwork are visible. In these examples I see really the crispness and sharpness of dials which are extremely well preserved and original.

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Thanks for all the expertise in this thread! I think I still disagree on the crosshair dial - the swiss made looks fine to me and the 4, 5, and 6 o'clock hour markers appear to be related to the angle the photo and crystal distortion.

How about these two watches from totally different origins (different continents). References are different (2505 11mil and 2620 12mil) and waffle patterns are different, but dial layout and print is exactly the same. Have they been redialed in exactly the same way but from totally different origins?

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Did you buy these two watches from different continents?