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Non-“Master” chronometer: how antimagnetic?

  1. Annapolis Nov 30, 2022

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    Omega-enablers,

    Anyone know how resistant to magnetism the 8611 movement is? It’s a co-axial chronometer (not a Master Chronometer) with a silicon spring, but I can’t find a gauss rating on any of Omega’s spec sheets for the movement or any of its associated watches.

    This is a point of curiosity, not urgency.
     
  2. Annapolis Nov 30, 2022

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    And the obligatory eye candy.
     
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  3. Jones in LA Isofrane hoarder. Nov 30, 2022

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    There are no explicit anti-magnetism test data available for this calibre, to the best of my knowledge. But it does have a Si-14 balance spring, which makes the watch's most magnetism-sensitive component essentially a-magnetic.
     
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  4. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Nov 30, 2022

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    This has the silicon balance spring, but will not have the anti-magnetic materials extended beyond that, as the 15,000 Gauss models will have. So the shock absorbers, balance staff, co-axial wheel, and pallet fork will not be made from anti-magnetic materials.
     
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  5. Annapolis Nov 30, 2022

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    So still fairly antimagnetic (for the usual day-to-day exposure) but not something you’d want anywhere near an MRI lab…
     
  6. OmegaOwner2019 Nov 30, 2022

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    It's fine. Your iPad cover is a higher risk than the MRI lab.

    Magnetic field strength declines exponentially with distance. Unless you are dumb enough to go into the red zone of an MRI machine, your watch would be fine.
    Radiologists waltz into the lab all the time with some very expensive pieces. I have yet to hear about flying watches or severed limbs.
     
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  7. Time2WatchOut Nov 30, 2022

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    If I may… just curious .Does anyone know the Gauss of the 2500D. I’ve got a 2017. It has the shield under the caseback.

    Don’t mean to hijack. Just figured 1 question to the rite audience can receive the rite “one answer”.


    My apologies if out of line.
     
  8. OmegaOwner2019 Nov 30, 2022

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    With silicon spring, it is at least safe to assume ISO 764/DIN8309.
    (At least ~60 gauss)
     
  9. Time2WatchOut Dec 1, 2022

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    60 gauss?

    compaired to 1000 rolex or the omega 1500

    seems extremely low

    I’ll call Omega and ask, report back
     
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  10. OmegaOwner2019 Dec 1, 2022

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    Just being conservative. The actual resistance is likely much higher than 60 gauss.

    As Archer pointed out, the balance spring is silicon, but the remainder of the movement is not necessarily all made of non-ferromagnetic metal.

    I doubt Omega will give you a straight answer, since their official FAQ just tells you to avoid magnets all together if you don't have a Master Chronometer.
     
  11. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Dec 1, 2022

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    You are confusing the situation here - the 2500D doesn't have any silicon balance spring, or any other if the highly anti-magnetic components.
     
  12. Time2WatchOut Dec 1, 2022

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    It does have a magnetic shield under the caseback.

    I’m sure that’s better than 60
     
  13. OmegaOwner2019 Dec 1, 2022

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    OK sorry, got confused there.
    If there is no silicon balance spring, then the resistance may very well just be 60 gauss.

    A regular movement will require some shielding to meet ISO/DIN requirement.
     
  14. Time2WatchOut Dec 1, 2022

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    I will say, I havnt heard of to many 2500D modern Omega watches have a problem of magnetic issues

    Really insignificant, I was just curious as to details.
     
  15. OmegaOwner2019 Dec 1, 2022

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    I mean, most watches don't have magnetic issues.

    Modern balance spring materials like nivarox still have some innate magnetic-resistance, despite not being non-magnetic.

    A fridge magnet is like 10 gauss. ISO/DIN standard of 60 gauss resistance is a reasonable standard.

    I think we watch nerds are just spoiled by the crazy over-engineering of luxury brands.
     
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  16. Time2WatchOut Dec 1, 2022

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    I bet a regular fridge magnet on back of my watch wouldn’t stop the movement like it could other watches.
     
  17. Annapolis Dec 1, 2022

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    I… wouldn’t try this just to find out
     
  18. OmegaOwner2019 Dec 1, 2022

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    Most watches probably won't be stopped by a dollar store fridge magnet. The rare earth magnets are another matter.

    Also not stopping does not mean not magnetizing the watch. A fridge magnet can still ruin your accuracy.
     
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  19. Time2WatchOut Dec 1, 2022

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    Obviously- I wouldn’t intentionally do that to my watch

    Was just a statement of opinion