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Nivada automatic 18ct - Dial authenticity

  1. nkb Feb 3, 2021

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    Hi OF!
    I need assistance with this particular example that may be of interest to me!
    It is a vintage Nivada with an 18ct gold case and an AS1561N 21 jewel automatic movement.
    As far as I can assess:

    Case: quite sharp and not greatly overpolished
    Crown: looks original
    Movement: OK but would need a service

    Dial:
    This is where I am having some difficulty!
    The dial looks very clean for a vintage watch, I am not sure if it is a redial or not. I studied the dial text and it looks consistent with vintage Nivada text but it may be too thick (especially the "21 Rubis"). Is the thick text indicative of a re-paint?
    I think I can make out "swiss made" under the 6-hour marker and have asked the seller to confirm this.

    Conclusion:
    Apart from the suspected redial, I think the dial and hands are very attractive for a vintage dress watch, the case and movement are acceptable and the 18ct case is a requirement for my dress watch hunt.

    I don't mind buying the more under-rated brands like Nivada. However, I don't want to compromise on a non-original dial!

    The price is $700 US; I don't know if that is fitting for this example though? I don't mind paying an extra premium on an original example.

    Please let me know your thoughts? Here are the pictures (from the seller)

    BTW: what time period is it likely from? The 50s or 60s?

    regards
    Neal

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  2. bubba48 Feb 3, 2021

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    Original dial IMO
     
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  3. Spinakerr Feb 3, 2021

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    Yes original dial, 'walk like an Egyptian' style N, early 1960s. 50s Nivadas generally had the formal 'square capitals' font, though without actual records its hard to be 100% on dates.
     
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  4. nkb Feb 3, 2021

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    "Walk like an Egyptian" I like that description!
     
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