Hello everyone, First of all thank you for this forum, I’ve learned so much reading you. Unfortunately I also realised I might have been fouled and spent £995 on a redialed (if not fake) Omega Pie Pan Constellation. I bought it in a physical shop after the seller showed me a number of ways to recognise a genuine from a fake. I was so tired and so excited to have found my other half finally the perfect present that I didn’t noticed the obvious (and I feel terrible as I’m a metrologist and a quality eng. so I should have an eye for detail). I had it engraved (in a different shop) so I’m really worried the seller will use it to not take it back. So, here’s the poor thing. Strap obviously new (came with a stainless steel one). I will add more pictures later. View attachment 783442 I’m not a collector, nor is my partner, so if the movement is original and I send it to Omega for service could I have it redialed properly? - Glass seems legit (has tiny omega engraving in the middle) - So does the back, I’ll check better when I can open it later - Star is not aligned - MOY failed - no lume on marks - weird hour marks - vertical crosshair misaligned (this is what is driving me insane at the moment) - wrong font ... what else? What are my rights as a buyer considering I had the back engraved?
I think the watch belongs to you for good, given the engraving. I am not so worried about the crosshairs as the case which is overpolished. The dog leg knees have all but vanished. Do not in any case consider sending the watch to Omega. The cost is prohibitive. Other redial shops can do a decent job for about 100£, but: Look at the watch from the purpose for which you bought it! It is still a nice classic watch, with more style than can be had buying a new watch for the same money. If you both get bitten by the dreaded vintage collector bug, use a year to find a unmolested successor. I think most of us have paid what the collector community calls n00b tax
It's redial with a lot of inconsistencies. Give yourself more time, & you will identify these in a second.
Minute track does not match the hour markers at all. Clear sign of redial. It’s not horrible, nice piece to wear, not a nice piece by collector standards. How did you buy it? How was it described? That determines your next steps.
I’m going to copy this into this thread as there are duplicate threads. Welcome@@lisapan You are correct that the dial has been repainted. The watch doesn’t look to be a fake but we would need more images (especially sides and back ) to be sure. Pics of the inner case back and movt would be useful too. What else you ask? I’m not even sure that the watch is a pie-pan - it looks to be a dome dial painted to look a bit like a pie pan. The hands look to have black inserts but the indices have notches for lume. If so, it’s possible they were replaced with short hands to (again) make it look like a pie-pan. The lugs are really quite soft (I.e. rounded) The crown is a replacement but probably the correct one. All in all a bit of a pig in a poke I’m afraid and I would definitely return it if it was described as all original. (Note: it is likely a genuine Connie but not original -a subtle, if mealy-mouthed, difference. ) However, since you have ‘damaged’ the watch (by engraving it) I think the seller will likely refuse to accept it back but you can always try. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but hope that helps.